How to tie a rat's mouth?

Do you know how to tie a rat mouth ?Because it is dangerous for the snake...

You are joking, right ? No one in their right mind would even think of such a dumb thing, let alone try it.

If the snake getting bitten worries you, you feed frozen/thawed, otherwise you do what any responsible owner does and carefully supervise feeding live.


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Buy f/t rats or prekilled? I don't know how or why anyone would do that. Feeding live rats can result in a bite, but it doesn't happen all that often, especially if you are feeding young rats. The only bites I have had were from medium sized rats, which is why I will most likely switch to f/t or prekilled when it comes to adult rats.

my personal opinion is that the rats that wild snakes eat are not tied so therefore why would u tie the mouth of a rat u feed your snake?

im new to this and i wouldnt suggest or try that - the f/t might be a better option for you unless youve tried that and the snake wont eat it

Would the object that you tied the rat's mouth with be any less dangerous for the snake??

Perhaps the question to ask the OP is this... has someone told you this or have you read somewhere of this being done?

You see son, first you BAIT your hook, then you throw it in the water and wait for the fish to bite. If you've got the right bait in the right pond you can catch some goshdarned whoppers.

No bait, no bite. No bite, hungry troll.

Personally, I use a nail gun. Got so I can hit the buggers running at 10 meters 7 out of 10 times.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

You see son, first you BAIT your hook, then you throw it in the water and wait for the fish to bite. If you've got the right bait in the right pond you can catch some goshdarned whoppers.

No bait, no bite. No bite, hungry troll.

Personally, I use a nail gun. Got so I can hit the buggers running at 10 meters 7 out of 10 times.

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lol dont tie the mouth bash the head like a zombie lol

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Originally Posted by wilomn

You see son, first you BAIT your hook, then you throw it in the water and wait for the fish to bite. If you've got the right bait in the right pond you can catch some goshdarned whoppers.

No bait, no bite. No bite, hungry troll.

Personally, I use a nail gun. Got so I can hit the buggers running at 10 meters 7 out of 10 times.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

You see son, first you BAIT your hook, then you throw it in the water and wait for the fish to bite. If you've got the right bait in the right pond you can catch some goshdarned whoppers.

No bait, no bite. No bite, hungry troll.

Personally, I use a nail gun. Got so I can hit the buggers running at 10 meters 7 out of 10 times.

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Nice! I needed a laugh tonite..:D

I also feed live rats to my BP and I was nervous about him getting bit, so I started using hot glue to hold the rats mount shut, then I lop off all his toes so there are no nails to scratch the snake with either.

I don't know of anyone who ties rats mouths shut and I think you were given misinformation if you were told to do that. If you're concerned about your snake being bit you can try frozen rodents. Unfortunately some snakes won't take frozen and for my picky eaters I stand by with tongs in hand to move their mouths if the snakes don't get a good wrap. Most bites are superficial but your snake gets bit bad flush the wound with saline and apply antibiotic creme without pain reliever and switch substrate to paper towels so that no particles can get in the wound. Keep the cage clean and the injury shouldn't get infected and your snake will recover completely once it sheds. If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask. :)

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Originally Posted by babyknees

I don't know of anyone who ties rats mouths shut and I think you were given misinformation if you were told to do that. If you're concerned about your snake being bit you can try frozen rodents. Unfortunately some snakes won't take frozen and for my picky eaters I stand by with tongs in hand to move their mouths if the snakes don't get a good wrap. Most bites are superficial but your snake gets bit bad flush the wound with saline and apply antibiotic creme without pain reliever and switch substrate to paper towels so that no particles can get in the wound. Keep the cage clean and the injury shouldn't get infected and your snake will recover completely once it sheds. If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask. :)

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And if the rat bites the snake eye?That happened to my friend.Result-a half blind snake.My python doesn't eat dead rodents.Often after the snake coil-her head is under rat mouth and he bites very bad.My boa eye before 12 years was bitten,it was a LUCK she didn't lost her eye.

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Originally Posted by xperience

And if the rat bites the snake eye?That happened to my friend.Result-a half blind snake.My python doesn't eat dead rodents.Often after the snake coil-her head is under rat mouth and he bites very bad.My boa eye before 12 years was bitten,it was a LUCK she didn't lost her eye.

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Sounds like your set on this. I would go with crazy glue. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by xperience

And if the rat bites the snake eye?That happened to my friend.Result-a half blind snake.My python doesn't eat dead rodents.Often after the snake coil-her head is under rat mouth and he bites very bad.My boa eye before 12 years was bitten,it was a LUCK she didn't lost her eye.

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I assure you that binding the rat's mouth is a terrible idea... Just buy tongs.

But if you really are set on it then take JohnNJ's advice :gj:

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

I would go with crazy glue. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by xperience

And if the rat bites the snake eye?That happened to my friend.Result-a half blind snake.My python doesn't eat dead rodents.Often after the snake coil-her head is under rat mouth and he bites very bad.My boa eye before 12 years was bitten,it was a LUCK she didn't lost her eye.

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Try pre killing the rats. I've never had a rat bite any of my snakes' eyes.

i keep my rats from biting by putting their head in a snakes mouth.

Feed frozen.

I think glue would be worse for the snake than the bite. Swing the rat by the tail against a wall or hard surface and throw it in while it's still twitching.

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Originally Posted by Eric Doane

I think glue would be worse for the snake than the bite. Swing the rat by the tail against a wall or hard surface and throw it in while it's still twitching.

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You don't actually think I was serious about the glue, do you?

BTW, I wouldn't swing a rat by the tail either but that's just me.

Here are your options

You feed live responsibly and this also include being human to the prey and respect the prey (whether you like rodents or not.

Or you don't feed live you feed P/K or F/T.

Or you don't own a snake if you are incapable to simply perform both of the above.

Feed your snake f/t or p/k. A live rat deserves the same respect as any other living creature. Perhaps you should not be keeping snakes if you have an issue with the humane treatment of animals.

The correct way to bind a rat's mouth:

First, make an appointment with a qualified surgeon, preferably one with battlefront wartime experience. They work better under pressure.

Take the rat that is going to be fed off to the hospital. Now, here's the tricky part - getting past the red-tape so you ONLY pay for the actual surgery to hold the mouth shut, and NOT pay for any anesthesia or ancillaries.

Pay the book keeper under the table - a $50 bill should do the trick, and have him/her ONLY submit the claim for the surgeon and the time for the O.R.

After recovery, you should have a rat with a nice, clean sutured mouth - ready to feed with no harm to your snake. And it only cost you $2500!

THAT, my friend, is a BARGAIN!

Are you insane?Or infantile?I receive only 2 or 3 reasonable answers..it's a shame

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Originally Posted by xperience

Are you insane?Or infantile?I receive only 2 or 3 reasonable answers..it's a shame

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In all fairness to those who have responded you did ask a crazy question so you got some very sarcastic answers.

Yes it is possible that your snake could get hurt from feeding live, but there are ways to do it safely, such supervising feedings and being prepared to step in should the rat get a hold of the snake. There is always a chance the snake could make a bad grab when feeding live, like what happened to your friend's snake, but these things just happen. You can't tie a rats mouth closed.

Your best bet it is to feed frozen/thawed or pre-killed. All but one of my snakes will take frozen/thawed for me. All you need is to make it warm enough, or use pre-killed, and then use feeding tongs to make it seem like it's alive but laying it down and grabbing it by the scruff of the neck and moving it.

and keep trying p/k or f/t, if your bp doesnt eat the first time, try again next week, and then the next week, and so on. dont just give in, your snake will eat a dead rodent eventually

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Originally Posted by xperience

Are you insane?Or infantile?I receive only 2 or 3 reasonable answers..it's a shame

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You asked one of the most absurd questions I have ever heard... I smell a Troll.

You have some good answers above about pre-killing and being cautious, but I will help your cause a bit... it's odd, but I know of a pet store Owner that use to do this for his Burmese, EXCEPT it was with rabbits, I volunteered at his store l to get experience with the snakes he sold, and one day I caught him feeding his Burmese, he grabbed a rabbit and hit the poor thing against the wall staggering it, he then tied the rabbits mouth shut with a rope and held it in the cage where the snake could wrap around the body but not the head and waited, after the Burmese suffocated the rabbit he did one of the stupidest things I've ever seen and stuck his hand inside the snakes cage and untied the rope then pulled his hand out like it never happened... don't do that, that's an accident waiting to happen, and just purely stupid. No offense to you personally as you most likely want to just keep your snake safe. But as other people have said, just feed it a staggered prey, or pre kill it. I know how it feels, our adult female ball and our Burmese only eat live, and even with proper safety precautions an accident can always happen. Good luck..

There is just no reason to tie a rats mouth. If you are feeding that large of a meal use prekill or ft methods. Prekill usually works best for the snakes that prefer live bc the rat twitches and is still warm. In all honesty even my largest girls don't eat jumbo rats and those are the ones that can usually do the most damage. I feed smaller more frequent meals for one of those reasons.


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Originally Posted by Jaxx

I also feed live rats to my BP and I was nervous about him getting bit, so I started using hot glue to hold the rats mount shut, then I lop off all his toes so there are no nails to scratch the snake with either.

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I hope to heck you are kidding. If you are not you might like to know that over here you would be arrested and jailed for animal cruelty for doing that and forbidden from keeping animals for years after you were released.

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Originally Posted by xperience

And if the rat bites the snake eye?That happened to my friend.Result-a half blind snake.My python doesn't eat dead rodents.Often after the snake coil-her head is under rat mouth and he bites very bad.My boa eye before 12 years was bitten,it was a LUCK she didn't lost her eye.

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Feed it a younger rodent.Or feed it P/K.

Del, of course he's kidding...

Educate yourself regarding feeding live, there are many threads on this site that deal with that very issue.

If a snake has it's eye taken out by a rat then the chances are that it can be related to human error (feeding too large of a rat etc.).

Bruce

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Originally Posted by xperience

Do you know how to tie a rat mouth ?Because it is dangerous for the snake...

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Trolling? Must be....

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Originally Posted by xperience

Are you insane?Or infantile?I receive only 2 or 3 reasonable answers..it's a shame

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Have to agree, you set yourself up for most of the sarcasm.
Should have made a thread like … How to avoid rat biting my snake etc.
I would go with smaller prey item if you cant handle anything else.
Also, maybe its just me , but I dont see a rat biting a snakes eye. Kinda seems real farfetched to me.

Hahaha wow this was a good laugh.

I prefer to staple my rats lips closed. Doesn't necessarily help my snake while pooping, but atleast I don't have to worry about bites :rolleyes:

OH yes, my snakes love to digest staples, hot glue, yarn, etc.

What a dumb idea.

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Originally Posted by Jaxx
I also feed live rats to my BP and I was nervous about him getting bit, so I started using hot glue to hold the rats mount shut, then I lop off all his toes so there are no nails to scratch the snake with either.

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Originally Posted by dr del

I hope to heck you are kidding. If you are not you might like to know that over here you would be arrested and jailed for animal cruelty for doing that and forbidden from keeping animals for years after you were released.



Feed it a younger rodent.Or feed it P/K.

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OMG!!! Of course I was kidding. WoW!!!