why you shouldnt care about being bit by a snake

i found this on rtb.com, and became aware that snakebites should be the least of anyones worries, just thought i'd share it here

http://www.redtailboas.com/f31/tagge...88/#post601667

After a few snake bites I no longer fear them, but I avoid them. However crocodilians scare the crap out of me. Most lizards (beardeds, uromastyx, iguanas, tegus, monitors) will do some damage too. I fear our feeder rats far more than I fear our largest carpet pythons too. I even spent some time in the hospital for a rat bite. Give me a snake bite any day!

Guests cannot see the photos. Bummer.

Snake bites are nothing compared to a mouse or guine pig bit

that is definitly true, i got bit by a rat when i was 12-13, and since then i havent touched one except to feed my snake lol, i did however hold a mouse for the first time since then a couple weeks ago, helped me get over my fear of rodents a little

Sucks I couldn't view the pics. Makes me wonder about my 2 1/2 gator downstairs :confused:

..it happens..

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Originally Posted by heathers*bps

Sucks I couldn't view the pics. Makes me wonder about my 2 1/2 gator downstairs :confused:

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i asked the guy if i could post the pics here, and im waiting for an answer now, it really wasnt all that bad at all for a gator, but compared to a snake bite...

what kind of gator do you have? ive always wanted one, a cuban in particular lol

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Originally Posted by cmack91

i asked the guy if i could post the pics here, and im waiting for an answer now, it really wasnt all that bad at all for a gator, but compared to a snake bite...

what kind of gator do you have? ive always wanted one, a cuban in particular lol

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Just a regular American alligator. I'm not all that fancied much by him, as I grew up in Florida and I had a few living in my backyard, but my husband likes him. Whatever makes him happy right? Lol

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...4/IMAG0531.jpg

ahh, hes beautiful, and your husbands a lucky guy, i cant imagine many wives out there that would let their other half have a gator downstairs lol

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Originally Posted by cmack91

i found this on rtb.com, and became aware that snakebites should be the least of anyones worries, just thought i'd share it here

http://www.redtailboas.com/f31/tagge...88/#post601667

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Depends on the snake.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Depends on the snake.

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an old friend of mine lost a finger and almost his life to a large naja nigricollis while trying to remove a retained eye cap. that snakes bites are no joke.

WARNIG VERY GRAFIC!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VlxswoLCQi...ja+D9+copy.jpg

Not only does it depend on the snake (I'm sure you wouldn't want to be bit my a mamba!), but if you're allergic to anything in the saliva. For example, watersnakes have a mild anti-coagulant in their saliva which causes a bit more bleeding than the average bite. If the bitten person has a clotting disorder, this can cause serious issues. I was bitten by a foot long watersnake a few years back. That bite bleed more than any of the bites from my adult corn snake and I'm healthy without any clotting disorders.

Another example is rear fanged snakes. Most of the ones that's common in the snake trade won't cause any harm. Maybe some minor irritation at the bite site. However, if the person bitten is allergic to the venom, then there's cause for alarm.

Yes, with snakes suck as corns, boas, pythons, etc. It's nothing to worry about. Maybe some bruising or superficial puncture marks if it's a larger snake, but there are species to be wary of. To say that people shouldn't care about snake bites in general is at best, foolish.

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an old friend of mine lost a finger and almost his life to a large naja nigricollis while trying to remove a retained eye cap. that snakes bites are no joke.

WARNIG VERY GRAFIC!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VlxswoLCQi...ja+D9+copy.jpg

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:O Yeah, I wouldn't want to mess with that snake.

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an old friend of mine lost a finger and almost his life to a large naja nigricollis while trying to remove a retained eye cap. that snakes bites are no joke.

WARNIG VERY GRAFIC!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VlxswoLCQi...ja+D9+copy.jpg

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well those are venomous snakes, which is a whole nother story

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Not only does it depend on the snake (I'm sure you wouldn't want to be bit my a mamba!), but if you're allergic to anything in the saliva. For example, watersnakes have a mild anti-coagulant in their saliva which causes a bit more bleeding than the average bite. If the bitten person has a clotting disorder, this can cause serious issues. I was bitten by a foot long watersnake a few years back. That bite bleed more than any of the bites from my adult corn snake and I'm healthy without any clotting disorders.

Another example is rear fanged snakes. Most of the ones that's common in the snake trade won't cause any harm. Maybe some minor irritation at the bite site. However, if the person bitten is allergic to the venom, then there's cause for alarm.

Yes, with snakes suck as corns, boas, pythons, etc. It's nothing to worry about. Maybe some bruising or superficial puncture marks if it's a larger snake, but there are species to be wary of. To say that people shouldn't care about snake bites in general is at best, foolish.

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your taking this a little too seriously, obviously they should still care, but the average bite from the average snake is nothing to worry about

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Originally Posted by cmack91

your taking this a little too seriously, obviously they should still care, but the average bite from the average snake is nothing to worry about

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I am talking about average snakes. Hognosed snakes are very popular, but they're rear fanged and mildly venomous. The same thing goes for garter snakes.

i still think your taking it too literally

Which means that other people can too..

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Originally Posted by cmack91

i still think your taking it too literally

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Try taking a feeding bite from a big dry.

You'll end up getting stitches also. I took 4 on the middle finger of my left hand from a juvenile YT cribo many years ago and a very well known indigo breeder almost lost a finger when a big bull male took it in a feeding strike.

The title of this thread was "Why You Shouldn't Care About Being Bit By a Snake". While I appreciate the damage a even a juvie croc can do, it in no way means that some snakes can't put a serious hurt on you via a bite - venomous or not.

There are plenty of reasons to care and they have nothing to do with taking things too literal.

i have, i took a feeding response bite from a 10-12ft scrub, she got my hand wrapped around my arm and everything, but no stitches, even after ten minutes of fighting with her. i know you need to take snake bites seriously and im sure everyone else here knows that too. common sense tells people to treat a snake bite just like any other wound, you keep it clean, and if it gets infected, or you react to it, or if its serious, you take care of it, ive never met someone that didnt know that. im not trying to imply that you leave it be and rub it in raw chicken grease or anything, any one with a brain will know not to take the title of the post as litteral advice, and if they do, im sorry for that person being so utterly stupid.

and im not saying you guys are stupid, cause obviously you know that you have to care for bites, just like any other wound

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i have, i took a feeding response bite from a 10-12ft scrub, she got my hand wrapped around my arm and everything, but no stitches, even after ten minutes of fighting with her. i know you need to take snake bites seriously and im sure everyone else here knows that too. common sense tells people to treat a snake bite just like any other wound, you keep it clean, and if it gets infected, or you react to it, or if its serious, you take care of it, ive never met someone that didnt know that. im not trying to imply that you leave it be and rub it in raw chicken grease or anything, any one with a brain will know not to take the title of the post as litteral advice, and if they do, im sorry for that person being so utterly stupid.

and im not saying you guys are stupid, cause obviously you know that you have to care for bites, just like any other wound

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No one was stupid enough to take your title as literal advice. Don't you worry about that.

I think most of us figured out you have absolutely no experience dealing with snakes that are capable of inflicting a serious bite. Case in point - comparing a amethystine python bite with a dry bite.

For what it's worth, a dry is not a scrub python - but you knew that - right? Keep your wits when a scrub bites you and you are left with a couple of punctures after you wipe up the blood.

Even if you keep you hand still, a dry will gnaw chew, rip and tear at your hand. They are not constrictors that go for a bite and a wrap but bully feeders that overpower and swallow smaller prey, but rip and tear and lacerate larger items like your hand. You are left with tears and gashes that require stitches. Not punctures that require a little dab of neosporin.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

No one was stupid enough to take your title as literal advice. Don't you worry about that.

I think most of us figured out you have absolutely no experience dealing with snakes that are capable of inflicting a serious bite. Case in point - comparing a amethystine python bite with a dry bite.

For what it's worth, a dry is not a scrub python - but you knew that - right? Keep your wits when a scrub bites you and you are left with a couple of punctures after you wipe up the blood.

Even if you keep you hand still, a dry will gnaw chew, rip and tear at your hand. They are not constrictors that go for a bite and a wrap but bully feeders that overpower and swallow smaller prey, but rip and tear and lacerate larger items like your hand. You are left with tears and gashes that require stitches. Not punctures that require a little dab of neosporin.

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your right, i dont have experience with snakes like that and i never implied that i do, and what exactly is a dry then? the only time ive heard that is when someone is talking about non-venomous

i got what you said about them being "bullys", but are some species that eat like that?

my wife was bit on her forearm by one of our previous guinea pigs he was fighting one of the others she tried to split them up and got 2 puncture wounds the size of pencil leads and they were an inch apart with a purple/green bruise about 4 inches around she couldn't move it at all for a week... she got tagged by our first RTB it was starved and we rescued it from an ignorant individual who fed it 1 mouse every month and we didn't know that at the time he explained it after we pulled the RTB off my wife's forearm... same arm as Guinea Pig actually and there was no residual damage after about 2 days she still has 2 spots and a knot between them to this day from the Guinea Pigs

im sorry, rodents have pretty nasty bites, even mice can, thats why i dont mess with any of them

Rodents do have some serious bites... That was the first thing on my mind when I met someone who said he used to have pet capybaras :O

http://gianthamster.com/wp-content/u...ybaraMusic.jpg

I don't even want to think about a rodent that big biting me!! LOL :8:

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your right, i dont have experience with snakes like that and i never implied that i do, and what exactly is a dry then? the only time ive heard that is when someone is talking about non-venomous

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Skip is talking about a species called Drymarchon...which are a very large colubrid also known as Indigos. They are not venomous...the "dry" is simply a shorthand for the species name.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Skip is talking about a species called Drymarchon...which are a very large colubrid also known as Indigos. They are not venomous...the "dry" is simply a shorthand for the species name.

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okay, thanks, i'll look into those, i like the pumpkin by the way:gj: