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  • 10-24-2011, 06:59 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    UTH only?
    55g tank with a UTH made for it from zoo meds.
    30g tank with a UTH made for it.

    Is this ok my room temp is 70 in my apartment.

    No heat lamps. My light went out & got no ride to get new lights. Plus the lamps lower the humidity
  • 10-24-2011, 07:03 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    I have ball pythons.
  • 10-24-2011, 07:20 PM
    pythonregius24
    70 is too low for the ambient. id say get infrared light or CHE as soon as you can. And there are ways you can do to keep your humidity like using cypress, foiling the screen top etc.

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  • 10-24-2011, 07:26 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    CHE? I have heat lamps on hot side normally. The lamp is broke.
    So what size lamp will raise the cool side from 70 to the needed range?

    Also the probe is in the hide on the hot side. It's 82 but the 2nd probe is ontop of the hot side hide it says 92.
  • 10-24-2011, 07:54 PM
    pythonregius24
    Ceramic Heat Emitter. 50 watts for the 30 gallon and 75watts for the 50.

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  • 10-24-2011, 08:15 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    Ok thanks


    Should I raise the cool side to 80?


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  • 10-24-2011, 08:38 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: UTH only?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NormalBallPythons View Post
    Also the probe is in the hide on the hot side. It's 82 but the 2nd probe is ontop of the hot side hide it says 92.

    I'm assuming this is because of the lamp above the warm side...

    Aim for keeping the surface underneath the hide at around 88. The temperature on top of the hide is not as important, but it should not exceed 92. When it comes to raising ambient temperatures, you may have more luck using just the UTH on the warm side for the basking spot and using the lamp(s) on the cool side to bump the ambient. But it's really a matter of experimentation.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NormalBallPythons View Post
    Should I raise the cool side to 80?

    75 is sufficient, but 80 is fine. And during the night 70 is perfectly fine, as long as the warm side stays in the high 80's.
  • 10-24-2011, 08:43 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    Ok if I move the heat lamp to the cool side won't the hot side cool down? Surely inside the hide willbe toasty because of the UTH.





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  • 10-24-2011, 08:45 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: UTH only?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NormalBallPythons View Post
    Ok if I move the heat lamp to the cool side won't the hot side cool down? Surely inside the hide willbe toasty because of the UTH.

    The warm side ambient may cool down a little bit, but as long as the surface temp underneath the warm-side hide stays in the high 80's it's fine.
  • 10-24-2011, 08:52 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    Ok thanks. I'll try it


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  • 10-24-2011, 09:23 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    Ok the cool side is 76. Inside the hot hide is 82.8 & raising.


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  • 10-24-2011, 09:32 PM
    kitedemon
    Ambient air temps of 70 are quite cool typically 78-84 air temps. This is AMBIENT AIR temps not surface temps. I'd also try to insulate the sides and back of the tank with ridgid foam insulation to try to keep some of the heat you are generating in.

    Snakes have one long lung and a short lung, the short lung is at best an aid in respiration so it doesn't matter for this topic. The long lung runs past the heart and kidneys and the major parts of the circulatory system. The temperature of the air inside the lungs effects the body core temp to a large extent. Cool air temps like 70ºF will drop the core temp and the hot spot surface temps will simply not be able to cancel out the effect of cold lung temperatures.
  • 10-24-2011, 11:21 PM
    isanta666
    Re: UTH only?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    Ambient air temps of 70 are quite cool typically 78-84 air temps. This is AMBIENT AIR temps not surface temps. I'd also try to insulate the sides and back of the tank with ridgid foam insulation to try to keep some of the heat you are generating in.

    Snakes have one long lung and a short lung, the short lung is at best an aid in respiration so it doesn't matter for this topic. The long lung runs past the heart and kidneys and the major parts of the circulatory system. The temperature of the air inside the lungs effects the body core temp to a large extent. Cool air temps like 70ºF will drop the core temp and the hot spot surface temps will simply not be able to cancel out the effect of cold lung temperatures.

    Could not have said it better myself. A lot of people forget the importance of ambient temps. The foam insulation works and covering the half the screen with tinfoil/towel works well. In a room that is 65 I am able to keep my ambient temps in a 20 gallon tank at 82 using just a 75 watt bulb.
  • 10-25-2011, 04:27 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    I'm confused. The hot side is 83.4 inside the hot side hide. That's inside the hide not under the mulch. My heat lamp raised the temp above the hot side temp to 95. Cool side is 75. What should I do?

    The towel on top helped. Not sure why the inside of the hide isn't warming up. Please help


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  • 10-25-2011, 05:08 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    I put the heat lamp on the cool side & it took that side up to 88. But the prob in the hot hide is 82.7. This is confusing me. Please help


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  • 10-25-2011, 05:25 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    My ball python has been fine with eating & shedding for three years +. But I'm just rethinking & making sure I'm doing what's best for them. Should I continue what I've been doing? Or switch it?


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  • 10-25-2011, 06:30 PM
    kitedemon
    No don't switch. They do adjust and so many never check the ambient temps that they ahe no idea of what they actually are also tanks typically have micro climates a climate inside each hide and close to the 'floor' as well and often they stratify the temps as you get to the top it will change. The best indicator of husbantry is health of the animal they suffer under incorrect conditions and that 90% of the time translates into sick animals. It sounds to me like you have a fair bit of substrate over the UTH you might thin it out some and use the lamp with a bit farther distance to drop the effect.

    There is no right and wrong way just ones that work or not. If you had a working method don't change it just get back to where you were.
  • 10-25-2011, 07:06 PM
    NormalBallPythons
    How much bedding should be over the UTH? I mean should it just cover it?


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