Ohio Governor Kasich to sign Emergency EO...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/o...cking-14788118

Awesome. Better lump horses, dogs, cats, gerbils, etc. in that bill too. I know more people who have been injured or killed owning one of those animals than have had any kind of negative interaction with an "exotic". I realize it's a matter of numbers with there being fewer exotics than "regular" animals but still... And turkeys. One of those butt-faced looking critters comes running at a farm worker trying to make a break pre-Thanksgiving, the entire nation could be in harms way!

Not to go off on a complete political rant but when did it become the responsibility of government to attempt to pass legislation to ensure people THINK before they act?! Logical thinking versus emotional: don't pass a knee-jerk law in an emotional response to what could have been a horrendous situation. What fun it'll be trying to get that one overturned, if ever that could be done. :rage:

Governor Press release:
http://www.governor.ohio.gov/Portals...Fact Sheet.pdf

Link to actual EO:
http://governor.ohio.gov/Portals/0/p...O 2011-24K.pdf

This just seems to reek of "well we can't punish the perpetrator to make an example so lets over-react." You think if the guy didn't kill himself but was sent to prison and fined for expenses would people jump strait to new laws or justice served?

A Deadly Ending To A Perfect Agenda



In America, we still have the right to freedom of speech and the right to form our own opinion. I am doing just that.

There are way to many perfect scenarios for this tragedy that struck Zanesville Ohio. It has been repeated by just the right people that have just the right friends way to many times. Carole Baskin of Big Cat Rescue of Tampa Florida calls exotic animal owners drug addicts. Jack Hanna calls exotic animal owners drug addicts. Carole Baskin gave the HUSU $100,000.00 this year to eat dinner with the HSUS, Hanna Filming and Carole Baskin was confirmed (via email) of setting up fake rescues to gain television time and gain profit from it. Carole Baskins former husband’s body has never been found, his own kids believe she fed him to her tigers. Neither organization the HSUS or PeTA will respond to the cry from the people around the world to stop Carole Baskin from feeding live rabbits to her hobby of collecting baby bobcats under the pretence of rehabilitating animals, however the videos on youtube they are feeding domestic rabbits to lions and tigers.



What do they all have in common or to gain from a tragedy such as this? They all together are working to get the American Politian’s in a panic and start passing ban bills and Terry Thompson was the perfect person for this to happen to. He had been in trouble for animal cruelty and fresh out of prison. In their eyes a drug addict with exotic animals.

Was it suicide or the perfect murder for an agenda?



Ask yourself; why would a man with keys and reported to be lazy take the time to cut his cages open?

How would anyone with such a mess of cages cut open enough cages to let every animal out alone and not be killed or attacked by one of those dangerous animals?



How would anyone have the time go do this and get away from them and go in front of his house and shoot himself leaving his body bloody in an small outside area with over 50 carnivores and not be eaten by starving tigers, lions and bears?



If the animals were let out late afternoon around 5pm and the police did not show up until nearly 7pm, that would mean the animals had nearly a 2 hour head start with no perimeter fence around the property and every animal was found and shot within nearly 18 hours with half of that being dark and rainy. How could that be possible unless you knew something was up?

Why did no law Enforcement, responding zoo, or wildlife park have the proper paralyzing agent to insure a proper knock down without death to the animals? (yes tranquilizers take a while but paralyzing agent work in seconds and it does work)?



Why did Jack Hanna post a picture of all the dead animals on his face book for the entire world to have their hearts pulled out? It was to further their agenda is what I got out of it.



What is their agenda? Carole Baskin put in writing in her 20 year plan by the year 2016 NO ZOO will be able to exhibit exotic cats due to the public outcry. All zoos and private owners will be forced to give up there cats and go only into sanctuaries approved by her group the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries and hope that they all die out by the year 2025. Do you realize if they get away with this, the entire world will be without tigers by the year 2025? That just cannot happen.

Not even 48 hours after the animals were buried and Terrys body still lays above ground their plan is in action. Already they are on the internet, phones and emails pushing Governors to pass emergency ban laws. They wasted no time.

Do you not think it is funny how they all support and promote The Elephant in the living room and it was scheduled to premier the next night in Ohio after this tragedy?



The perfect promotion.

I myself own a zoo, with nearly 200 large cats. Could I let 50 of mine out and make it out alive. I don’t think so.



Would I take the time to cut the cages and locks when I own the key? I don’t think so.



Would I let the animals out that I loved to be killed. Not a cold day in hell.



Would you find my tigers, lions and bears in nearly 18 hours. No way.



The sheriff had the opportunity to exercise his authority in January of this year when we had people on location and 2 teams heading that way to confiscate those animals and place them in a safe place until the courts could decide but he blocked our attempt by saying there well cared for and there is no safety issue. His smiles while talking to the news looked like he loved hunting those beautiful creatures down like rats.



I have been working on a story for over two years now and have over 1000 documents tying most of these people together and NO ONE would listen to me. Congratulations, the agenda is no in full motion unless the President of the United States get a special team of investigators on this that are NOT elected people. This will happen agan and agan until the agenda is complete. When our park was broken into and the PeTA employee was caught red handed stealing our computers, I was told by the FBI agent that there was no way they would prosecute it because it would cost the Judges and Prosecutors to many votes. Congratulations, there now has been two animal owners found dead on their property, both ruled a suicide due to being crazy exotic animal owners, while the truth may still be among us in the form of people you call your friends, allies or heroes.



This whole thing sickens me. If I am found dead, trust me I did not commit suicide, my animals did not eat me. Find my body, set me in a seat on the front row and let my dead body watch The Elephant In The Living Room while my ghost fly’s around the earth saying I was right.

Welcome to America……



How many people must die for one agenda to be complete?

Stop the ban laws, stop the agenda.

Joe Schreibvogel (Oklahoma)

I agree that the police were in it for revenge. I just read a newspaper article today that stated that almost all of the tigers, lions, and bears were declawed and bottle raised since birth.

(c) An alligator;

(d) A crocodile;

(e) A constricting snake;

(f) A venomous snake;

(g) Any other animal designated by the chief in rules adopted under this section.

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/B...B_352_I_N.html

So, it basically makes all snakes illegal since if a snake doesn't kill via venom, it kills by constricting.

Will corn snakes and other native snakes be banned also or does it mean all including native? This will be a very very bad thing for our community :(

I expect nothing more out of Kasich. He has always been a kook.

They have just criminalized the ownership of 10s of thousands of harmless herps due to a knee jerk reaction. It just makes me sick. I always couldn't stand Ohio - here is reason 10,000 for me...

Wow...This stinks! Has USARK made a statement on this yet?

So let me get this straight, we are not going to be allowed to breed and sell our balls, corns, kings, etc in the state of Ohio? They do not make those lists very clear by just stating "constricting snakes". Last one only targeted large constrictors capable of exceeding 15ft (burms, retics, afrocks, etc). Is that what this is or is it really targeting everything from a harmless corn snake and up? If so, see ya later Ohio!

I can think of no reply other than: this really, really, and I mean REALLY, sucks....

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I agree 200%.

yea right...they can go ahead and lock me up... this has got to be a joke....hmmm dont know if I'm more sick or mad....

I can't help but notice that not many people seem to be freaked out over this? Am I blowing this out of proportion? Am I missing something? When Strickland passed the executive order last year, people were going crazy...It doesn't seem to be the case here.

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I can't help but notice that not many people seem to be freaked out over this? Am I blowing this out of proportion? Am I missing something? When Strickland passed the executive order last year, people were going crazy...It doesn't seem to be the case here.

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Maybe they all already moved/left Ohio? I hear ya' though, there isn't much of an uproar over this, at least not on-line thus far. Maybe they're mustering the troops and preparing to file suit. Hoping that's the case, anyway.

I live in ohio, and I think this is total bs. What are those of us who already had our animals supposed to do? I will not give up my snakes.

I'm not good at reading those legal things, especially when I first wake up. :confused: I will have to reread it later, but--

Are current pets safe? Is every ten year old with a ball python breaking the law, or are their pets safe and they just can't get new ones?

This is ridiculous. I would be out of that state so fast... Horrible.

This is horrible! :rage:

But how do we go about fighting back? It won't stop in Ohio. I have dreams of one day owning my own exotic animal store/education center.

It's kind of sad that this is what it's come too. Thanks for shedding considerable light on the situation llovelace. I live in west virginia, and this is really making me wonder about the possible effects of living one state away. Wish I could thank your post more times than just once. :(

One thing I did notice while re-reading it after I cooled down a bit, is that the EO never actually states that these animals will be banned. What I gathered from reading it is that they want to keep better track of who has what and make sure they are properly/securly housed and treated humanely. Of course in the meantime they are writing the actual law that will be passed in November. I just expected USARK to chime in by now and give us an update?

I'm almost positive it would be unConstitutional for Ohio to try to make a law that's retroactive. They could allow the breeding/purchasing/selling/etc. of "exotic" animals, including snakes, but they couldn't make it retroactively punitive against anyone that currently owns or has owned such an animal. My guess is that they would "grandfather in" those people that currently have them and depending on how they word the law they want to pass, make it illegal to bring into the state/breed/sell/etc. any additional animals. They might also try to make it necessary to have a permit issued for any animal that is covered under the bill/law.

Another tact might be what Utah does with polygamy: the state essentially turns a blind eye to polygamous marriages except in cases of abuse or neglect, even though there is a law on the books that makes it illegal to be in a polygamous marriage. Then Ohio could essentially have the Sword of Damocles hanging over the head of any "exotic" owners: toe the line or if you cross it, we enforce the law that's on the books and you pay the consequences. Hopefully USARK is tailoring a response and gathering the info necessary to mount a defense of this crap for their members, of which I am one...here's hoping, anyway.

I live in Ohio and I AM TICKED ! I hate to think that because of the actions of some retard that acted very poorly that I, a responsible python keeper, could have my beloved pet taken away !

It makes me so mad !

I hope ( and pray ) that they will allow us to keep what we already have .....I do not wish that anyones pets be taken away. This is a serious matter....

I wanted to breed Borneo pythons.....I don't know if this will be possible now. It was a dream of mine that may not be able to be realized thanks to a freaking idiot setting his tigers, bears, lions, etc loose !

My python has never hissed at or bitten ( or even tried to bite ) ANYONE......She is far from dangerous to anyone.

I hope that this ban goes away. Somebody has got to come to their senses in the political realm.....before it is too late for those of us with our heads on straight.

Yosef Avraham
A CONCERNED AND ANGRY CITIZEN OF OHIO.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad:

"YOSEF"

Think you need to read post #5 in this thread and maybe do some research on the agenda of the HSUS before believing the press on this..

We have dealt with these matters before. Like in Florida. All the lies surrounding the origins of the feral Burmese. The Boas that started popping up in other states like the carolinas which were found to have been purposely released by agenda members and then reported, only to further their agenda to get all these bans passed..

The lies that were spread saying the feral constrictors can migrate as far north as the Canadian border..

Mysterious deaths of responsible keepers..

The list goes on and on..

They have to include a grandfather law if it does come to the point of "banning exotics". It would be nothing but chaos if everyone was forced to "dispose" of their current animals. While in my local reptile shop the other day, i also heard a rumor(pretty reliable imo) that in the next few years they are looking/wanting to classify any one with over 5 animals in confinement(fish in a tank, snakes in a cage/rack, or dogs restricted to a house or small back yard, etc) as an Animal Hoarder. And all it takes is for your neighbor to call in with a complaint of neglect/abuse/nuisance, for them to seize and euthanize all your animals....again just "hear-say", but pretty scary to think about....where does it stop??? and what can we as citizens and exotic owners do???

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So so so stupid...watch out for those dangerous corns!

What can we do to stop this? Who do we need to call, message, email?

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They have to include a grandfather law if it does come to the point of "banning exotics". It would be nothing but chaos if everyone was forced to "dispose" of their current animals. While in my local reptile shop the other day, i also heard a rumor(pretty reliable imo) that in the next few years they are looking/wanting to classify any one with over 5 animals in confinement(fish in a tank, snakes in a cage/rack, or dogs restricted to a house or small back yard, etc) as an Animal Hoarder. And all it takes is for your neighbor to call in with a complaint of neglect/abuse/nuisance, for them to seize and euthanize all your animals....again just "hear-say", but pretty scary to think about....where does it stop??? and what can we as citizens and exotic owners do???

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That's going to go over real well with the horse/cattle breeders/showers. Most show places keep their horses stalled.

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"YOSEF"

Think you need to read post #5 in this thread and maybe do some research on the agenda of the HSUS before believing the press on this..

We have dealt with these matters before. Like in Florida. All the lies surrounding the origins of the feral Burmese. The Boas that started popping up in other states like the carolinas which were found to have been purposely released by agenda members and then reported, only to further their agenda to get all these bans passed..

The lies that were spread saying the feral constrictors can migrate as far north as the Canadian border..

Mysterious deaths of responsible keepers..

The list goes on and on..

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I DID read post # 5. I found it very sad to think this guy could have been a victim of a plot / scheme. I also think that our government cannot be trusted - nor do I believe that they act in " our best interest".

I am not an investigator, I wasn't there. I am just sick of people being careless / clueless with exotics ( or any animal ).....I am NOT picking on this guy. I am talking about morons keeping big snakes in fish tanks with clothes for lids or large pythons left roaming the house at all times.

Every time somebody acts carelessly with a python/boa/monitor, etc - we, the responsible herp keepers pay for it.

The media LOVES stories ( true or not ) of people doing stupid things with Reptiles. It adds fuel to the fire for those lawmakers wishing to squash the reptile community.

I love my python too much to have it taken away because of the careless / thoughtless actions of someone else.......and I love the dream of breeding her in the future.

I would HATE to have something that I love and have invested time and emotion in ripped from me. I think what happened was a tragedy. I hated seeing all those animals dead. I didn't like that this guy killed himself or heaven forbid was murdered for an agenda pushers sick pleasure.

The reptile community really needs to stick together on these issues.....if it goes over in Ohio, where I live, it's only a matter of time before it happens again and again.

Whether the sad incidents that have taken place were an attempt to push an agenda or not, I do not know. I have heard what the media says AND I read the very informative post #5. I wonder if we will ever really know what happened.

It is sad for sure.

Yosef

They cannot just come take what you already have. The government just want complete control. Usark, and us reptile owners will have this fight for ever. Think about how long the NRA has been fighting this battle. Guns and exotic pets can be looked at the same way tgerewill always be a uproar about good citizens owning both because of a few screw ups.

America, the land of the free. :rofl:

I hate that things like this have to happen. It really sucks. It sucks that we will eventually loose our rights to own "exotics".
What sucks even more is that animals had to die. It sucks that these awesome animals get treated the way they do. They deserve to live free and in the wild.
It's rather amusing reading some of these conspiracy theories. Realy?



Stuff like this is part of the reason.
G.W. EXOTIC ANIMAL MEMORIAL AWA DOCKET NO. 05-0014 dated 26 Jan 2006

A Deadly Ending To A Perfect Agenda? Seams like you've helped to fuel the fire to me.
I don't know maybe I have it all wrong. If so then maybe you can explain? It just bothers me with some of the stuff you are saying yet you are also a cause for these types of actions. I can see why you have a problem with some of the people that you do and vice versa.
Your going to complain about someone feeding their big cats live domestic rabbits? realy? Who cares? There are tons of em and they breed like rats.

So, is there any word on how USARK is gonna try and fight this?

To any members of: HSUS, PETA, ALF, or any other animal rights activist group (terrorest cell)

If you would like to discuss my reptile collection, and debate my rights to my collection please pm me, and I will give you my address and set up a time for you to come over. It will probably be late evening due to my work schedule.

Sincerely:
Mr. Mossberg

Ps. My front door is broken so feel free to come to one of my side Windows and climb in.

:mad: :mad:

I have a degree in public policy so I emailed USARK asking if I can help in any way... I'd like to :)

http://www.facebook.com/sunflowerrai...added_to_group

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I can't help but notice that not many people seem to be freaked out over this? Am I blowing this out of proportion? Am I missing something? When Strickland passed the executive order last year, people were going crazy...It doesn't seem to be the case here.

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Maybe they all already moved/left Ohio? I hear ya' though, there isn't much of an uproar over this, at least not on-line thus far. Maybe they're mustering the troops and preparing to file suit. Hoping that's the case, anyway.

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Some serious discussions, debates are all over jack hannas public figure page

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I live in ohio, and I think this is total bs. What are those of us who already had our animals supposed to do? I will not give up my snakes.

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Take this very seriously

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I hate that things like this have to happen. It really sucks. It sucks that we will eventually loose our rights to own "exotics".
What sucks even more is that animals had to die. It sucks that these awesome animals get treated the way they do. They deserve to live free and in the wild.
It's rather amusing reading some of these conspiracy theories. Realy?

Stuff like this is part of the reason.
G.W. EXOTIC ANIMAL MEMORIAL AWA DOCKET NO. 05-0014 dated 26 Jan 2006

A Deadly Ending To A Perfect Agenda? Seams like you've helped to fuel the fire to me.
I don't know maybe I have it all wrong. If so then maybe you can explain? It just bothers me with some of the stuff you are saying yet you are also a cause for these types of actions. I can see why you have a problem with some of the people that you do and vice versa.
Your going to complain about someone feeding their big cats live domestic rabbits? realy? Who cares? There are tons of em and they breed like rats.

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That link you posted above, was done after years of torment & lies by carole baskins of big cat rescue.
This woman has single handedly with the help of her minions tried to have EVERY large animal rescue/sanctuary/breeder shut down in fl, she has gone as far as sending letters to all the neighbors around such rescues/sanctuary/ breeders, trying to incite panic, and urge them to complain. This same woman with the help of peta sent in a spy to GW exotic, and he made an "incriminating video" of abuse.

After an evening press conference on the elleged abuse, every agency & their mother was at GW's door bright & early the next morning. Did they find any case of abuse? No! Was their any non-compliance? No! Epic fail! on the part of peta. In fact GW had just had an inspection the day before.
And while their spy was caught red handed trying to steal their computers hard drives, and the FBI was called in, guess what they said "peta will never be prosecuted because too many judges & law makers are afraid of losing votes"

This woman carole baskin, with her warm & fuzzy videos, is a very dangerous person, who has aligned herself with peta.

Here is a link to show at noon today if you care to listen in
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=192417950832673

So after years of putting up with the torment, what do you expect?
Are you familiar the the term "it's on", well believe me it is.

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That link you posted above, was done after years of torment & lies by carole baskins of big cat rescue.
This woman has single handedly with the help of her minions tried to have EVERY large animal rescue/sanctuary/breeder shut down in fl, she has gone as far as sending letters to all the neighbors around such rescues/sanctuary/ breeders, trying to incite panic, and urge them to complain. This same woman with the help of peta sent in a spy to GW exotic, and he made an "incriminating video" of abuse.


So after years of putting up with the torment, what do you expect?
Are you familiar the the term "it's on", well believe me it is.

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So after years of torment & lies it's ok to neglect your animals? Really? She is owner of Big Cat Rescue. Ever think that she is trying to shut down places that neglect their animals? I have no clue what her agenda is but it seams odd that someone who owns big cats would want to make it so that NO one owns them. That would mean she wouldn't be able to either. Defeatism? I guess if no one owned them then none of them would be neglected or put down due to owner negligence.
It is very sad to think that you find it ok for someone to neglect their animals because they put up with years of torment from someone else.

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So after years of torment & lies it's ok to neglect your animals? Really? Terry had only been back home for about a month, and no will know now if he was indeed trying to improve the situation for the animals there. Apparently the sherriff didn't think they were being neglected, because he wouldn't allow the animals to be moved back in January. She is owner of Big Cat Rescue. Ever think that she is trying to shut down places that neglect their animals? I have no clue what her agenda is but it seams odd that someone who owns big cats would want to make it so that NO one owns them. You're right you DON'T know her agenda, but feel free to google away, you'll learn that her agenda is. That would mean she wouldn't be able to either. No it wouldn't not with the help of HSUS & PETA, whom she is aligning herself with these days. Defeatism? I guess if no one owned them then none of them would be neglected or put down due to owner negligence.
It is very sad to think that you find it ok for someone to neglect their animals because they put up with years of torment from someone else.
I never said it was ok, but show me one citation for neglect of animals that Mr. Thompson received regarding those animals that were killed.
This whole thing is not about Mr. Thompson, you need to look at the bigger picture! Do you even know what that is?!

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The bigger picture unfortunately is that as long as we are able to own "exotics", or anything else for that matter, somebody is going to screw it up for everyone else. That goes for everything in life.
G.W. Exotic Animal Memorial has been cited for neglect which you were also talking about in this thread. To my understanding Mr. Thompson was starting to neglect his animals because he couldn't afford the maintenance any longer. He was actually trying to get rid of some of the animals but no one would/could help him. He decided to take his frustrations out on others when he decided it was too much. There was/is no conspiracy theory. No one was murdered or found bound and hooded. The fencing on the cages wasn't cut open. He let them lose. The animals weren't killed in their cages. They were killed in the surrounding area. Animals were seen in other peoples yards and in parking lots.

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The bigger picture unfortunately is that as long as we are able to own "exotics", or anything else for that matter, somebody is going to screw it up for everyone else. That goes for everything in life.
G.W. Exotic Animal Memorial has been cited for neglect which you were also talking about in this thread. GW was cited for neglect of the animals? Please show me citation or charge. Learn to google if you don't know what you are talking about! To my understanding Mr. Thompson was starting to neglect his animals because he couldn't afford the maintenance any longer. He was actually trying to get rid of some of the animals but no one would/could help him. BS! People cam to his farm back in Jan to get those animals & the sherriff wouldn't allow them to be taken, funny how the ohio zoo director just stated yesterday that the remaining animals appear to be healthy. hmmmm. He decided to take his frustrations out on others when he decided it was too much. There was/is no conspiracy theory. No one was murdered or found bound and hooded. Once again, google can be your friend see links below.The fencing on the cages wasn't cut open. He let them lose. Are you ignorant as to what is happening outside your little bubble! The animals weren't killed in their cages. They were killed in the surrounding area.Yes some of them were killed in their cages! And the majority of those animals were killed on the property. Burst your bubble join the real world! Animals were seen in other peoples yards and in parking lots.

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The mods may as well move this to the QT room.

Here are your links

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011...s_links_1.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011..._mazzol_1.html

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The mods may as well move this to the QT room.

Here are your links

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011...s_links_1.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011..._mazzol_1.html

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WOW! That explains why I had no clue as to what you were talking about. You are all over the place and talking about several different happenings all at once without specifying.

Here, I'll post the link again. Maybe you missed it some how? I am pretty sure I know how to use google, guess you don't?
G.W. EXOTIC ANIMAL MEMORIAL AWA DOCKET NO. 05-0014 dated 26 Jan 2006

As far as my bubble, I am pretty sure it's safer than yours. Mine is also based on reality.

That was a fine because the fencing was not at the proper height, and your point is?

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That was a fine because the fencing was not at the proper height, and your point is?

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Fencing wasn't at proper height? Can you not read? This is mute if you can't or refuse to read what the citation is about. FYI it was for neglecting animals.

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Fencing wasn't at proper height? Can you not read? This is mute if you can't or refuse to read what the citation is about. FYI it was for neglecting animals.

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Sorry it took so long to get back to this, but I've been off doing my part to make sure "our rights" to own exotics are not taken from us. You are bringing up a citation from 2005, and the citation WAS NOT for neglect, or cruelty.
Can you pull up one since, no you can't because he goes above and beyond for his animals.

Show me one zoo, rescue, airline that has not had a citation from USDA. Hell DHL paid the largest fine in world history, how do you think the USDA makes their money? FINES

You're right it is a moot point as far as you, if you think what's going on with the large cats won't affect you, you are sadly mistaken & you are in for a RUDE awakening.

You made this comment earlier about big cats "They deserve to live free and in the wild".

1) What wild should they be living in?
2) The same thing is being said by peta & H$U$ about your 75+ snakes.

And look at the proposed ban hmmmmmm

With H$u$ pretty much writing this proposed bill, and with a Peta advocate on the panel, Ohioans need to band together & take a stand against this proposed bill!

It's canada time!!!!!