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Dwarf Rat or What
This guy is 2-2.5 months old and only about the weight of a 30g rat pup. Very energetic, eating food and still nursing. Slowly gaining weight each week. But Idk. Never seen this before for them to be this small.
His belly and colon look normal, and does have big eyes. From what i can see both eyes are normal, just bigger, and not blind from either.
Hes very friendly too and loves being held and chased in the tub. One reason ive kept him with nursing females.
his left eye is flash sensitive ive noticed. And its a double rex dumbo
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4380.jpg
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He is so ugly..... well he is just ugly... lol I had a mouse like that never grew up then started dragging its back legs.
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by scc_583
He is so ugly..... well he is just ugly... lol I had a mouse like that never grew up then started dragging its back legs.
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Dont think i asked for you to puts your comments forth if you didnt like them. Double rexs are sought after trait in rats as well as rexs.
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I can't answer dwarf or not.. I have a true hairless girl that has stayed half the size of my smallest normal female, and she does not seem to be growing any more.
I am curious about the left eye though. Is there an issue with it, or is it bc of the curly double rex hairs at the face?
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by Anatopism
I can't answer dwarf or not.. I have a true hairless girl that has stayed half the size of my smallest normal female, and she does not seem to be growing any more.
I am curious about the left eye though. Is there an issue with it, or is it bc of the curly double rex hairs at the face?
Not sure, his eyes are fine, When held he has both eyes open at all time when playing and so forthh. When ever i take a picture, left eye closes. I keep an eye on it as much as possible, and theres no fluids coming from either eye or nose. So all seems fine there.
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My hairless (double rex) girls always seemed to stay small. Partly just because they're lacking fur so they automatically seem smaller/skinnier (and their litter mate with fur is unusually fluffy, which doesn't help lol), and I've also noticed that they just seem to grow a bit more slowly. As long as he acts, eats, and poops normally I wouldn't worry though, and its great that he's such a friendly guy :D
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by LotusCorvus
My hairless (double rex) girls always seemed to stay small. Partly just because they're lacking fur so they automatically seem smaller/skinnier (and their litter mate with fur is unusually fluffy, which doesn't help lol), and I've also noticed that they just seem to grow a bit more slowly. As long as he acts, eats, and poops normally I wouldn't worry though, and its great that he's such a friendly guy :D
Trust me i have close to 20 double rex females breeding all around 300g. This guy is smaller than 3 week old rats. By holding him im guessing 30g max on the weight.
Heres a video of him i just made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiD3XKGxFR4
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Holy cow! he's way smaller than the other pictures made him seem. lol. My girl is twice his size.. which is still half the size of my smaller girls =P I hope he's good and healthy. I wonder if any of the girls would even let him breed at that size? haha.
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by Anatopism
Holy cow! he's way smaller than the other pictures made him seem. lol. My girl is twice his size.. which is still half the size of my smaller girls =P I hope he's good and healthy. I wonder if any of the girls would even let him breed at that size? haha.
Not gonna breed him as i got some stellar siamese rex males breeding. Be just a pet i can play with.
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I have a friend who breeds dwarf rats, look her up on facebook, crespos crazy critters, her name is Jenn, She might be able to lend you insight :)
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I don't know what to make of him, but definitly a cool looking rat.
I finally found a rattery near me that deals with dumbos. Can't wait to get one:rat:
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I have right now 3 dumbo Siamese in the racks raising up.
Id have plenty of dumbos you could choose from to get started.
This lil guy will live his life as a pet. As im sure he wont grow much more in his life or live too long. Looks like a Runt that was stunted from not getting enough food. Either way hes here to stay..
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That is awesome! I have a ton of hairless dumbo's, I get 4-5 almost every litter, but I have never had one stay small like that. I think they are really cool and the fact that its gonna stay tiny makes it even cooler! GL with him/her
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons
I have right now 3 dumbo Siamese in the racks raising up.
Id have plenty of dumbos you could choose from to get started.
Do you ever attend any shows on the east coast?
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by Adam Chandler
Do you ever attend any shows on the east coast?
No I do not. Im OCD when it comes to being around other animals in a public place. Then coming back to my collection
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Hmm...this is interesting. Especially because I have a tiny little 6 week old hairless female that I've been wondering whether she's a dwarf or not. But just like yours, she's incredibly sweet and has a home here with me.
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I've had a few tiny ones like that seem to always be the double rex, one of the small ones I kept just had her first litter, but she is at least close to a normal sized female now. I figure she was just a runt
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We call them runts where i come from lol. Most likly what has happend if he was the runt he wasn't able to get to the milk cause his brothers and sisters would be much stronger and push him away. Which usally causes stunned growth and smaller size. When ever we see runts in our colonies we sometimes tend to just cull them out and just feed them off. Every once in a while one will make it through and we end up seeing them being twice as small as the rest. We don't breed them but end up just feeding them off...
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
I wont be breeding or feeding him off. Ive had runts before, but they always caught up.
This guy has been nursing still on some females and eating food fine. I dont think hell ever grow.
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It looks like a dwarf Rich, it has all of the characteristics of a dwarf, I'm not saying it is for sure but it looks more like a dwarf than a runt.
Siamese double rex dwarf female
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/PICT9000.jpg
Black Double rex dwarf male in molt
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Black Double rex dwarf male with his hair :rofl:
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Blue rex coat dwarf in molt
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...0372Medium.jpg
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It would be odd to get dwarf now after good 2 years with this stock of rats. Hmm. Hes cool as hell and shall see how he grows.
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons
It would be odd to get dwarf now after good 2 years with this stock of rats. Hmm. Hes cool as hell and shall see how he grows.
It would be odd yes, but with breeding hets you know it's not hard to miss the odds.
I have bred het dwarfs together and got 1 dwarf in a litter of 14 and then repeated the same pairing and got 12 dwarfs out of 15 kits.
You'll know by the time it hits 10-12 weeks old for sure.
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl
It would be odd yes, but with breeding hets you know it's not hard to miss the odds.
I have bred het dwarfs together and got 1 dwarf in a litter of 14 and then repeated the same pairing and got 12 dwarfs out of 15 kits.
You'll know by the time it hits 10-12 weeks old for sure.
Hes over 2 months old now. Closer to 10-11 weeks
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A male size comparison ~ Adult dwarf X adult normal size
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/PICT5436.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/PICT5424.jpg
Maybe you got lucky, good thing you know what to do with recessive males if you want to carry on the trait :)
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hall see if he grows anymore. Hes still nursing mostly and always has a milk ring. I havent weaned him as i want him to eat well.
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by scc_583
He is so ugly..... well he is just ugly... lol I had a mouse like that never grew up then started dragging its back legs.
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Why even post this? Your new, Just like I am annd this is why the "newbies' got such a bad rep...
I think it is kinda cool its different... I woulda kept him also... But I read before somewhere (before I started breeding my own rats). There are breeds you dont breed together or with other genes. I think the REX, Blue and Dalmations were some. I dont think it is a Dwarf, but maybe a runt kind of thing?
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Re: Dwarf Rat or What
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Originally Posted by Quikcobra
Why even post this? Your new, Just like I am annd this is why the "newbies' got such a bad rep...
I think it is kinda cool its different... I woulda kept him also... But I read before somewhere (before I started breeding my own rats). There are breeds you dont breed together or with other genes. I think the REX, Blue and Dalmations were some. I dont think it is a Dwarf, but maybe a runt kind of thing?
Theres some you dont breed for mega colon and such. But I only have rexs and siamese. Nothing else.
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Hes awesome, Loves being held, but dont have the ability to climb well on my shirt.
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Feel bad for the little dude but if he's getting along okay otherwise, given his size and everything, kudos to him. Reading your earlier posts, you don't have any hairless genetics in your breeding stock that you know of or do you? I'm clueless about rat genetics, if you couldn't tell, lol! I just didn't know if one type was more prone to producing dwarfs (other than dwarfs specifically bred for that reason) over another type or if the hairless rats threw odd young as a trait or...? More questions than answers, sorry! :D
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I dont have any hairless genes.
What you see is a double rex AKA Mock hairless. They look like a hairless till they grow their hair, then molt if off again. Doing this their entire lives, which is why i like them.
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Awesome, thanks! I had no idea... Hmmm...I might have to get some now, lol! Hahahahaha! One thing I read: does he have whiskers (curly or otherwise?) like a "standard" Rex/Double Rex would have?
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He is a double rex that is pictured here. They all have whiskers, but Rexs and double rexs are curled a lot, as reg rats are straight.
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http://ratsforpets.blogspot.com/2008...s-of-rats.html
This has some pretty interesting reading on the genetics of the various coat types and what gene(s) cause the mutation. I dunno...at a loss on that one. Hope he gets by okay, regardless.
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Yes theres a TON of rats out there that im sure are still not been produced.
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