Where do Pieds come from?

Like many, my favorite morph would have to be the Pied. But where do they come from? What mixtures give you a pied and what mixtures give you an albino pied?

Well when a mommy pied and a daddy pie love each other very much...:hump:



Pieds like all base morphs were found somewhere in Africa at some point and imported to the us or other country..

So its not a morph that people have "made"?

Ed!! :O Everyone knows the Pied Stork brings them! :evileye:

:P

Seriously though...

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Originally Posted by pigfat

So its not a morph that people have "made"?

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Correct. Like the albino, it's a morph that is found in nature. It's not a combination of multiple morphs. An albino-pied though...that is a combination of the two different morphs done through careful breeding. Extremely unlikely that one would ever be found in the wild.;)

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Well when a mommy pied and a daddy pie love each other very much...:hump:

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This made me choke on my water, lol!!!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Well when a mommy pied and a daddy pie love each other very much...:hump:

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Best. Post. Ever. :gj:

Pieds are recessive, and cannot be made by combining anything other than the Pied genetics together...

And they come from eggs.

okay okay.....enough with the jokes! I didn't know if you had to pair other morphs together to get a pied! How do they get an albino pied? Those just seems crazy...saw one on a website for $35,000. I'm guessing it wont sell very quick.

Albino Pieds are harder.

You need to have two animals with both genes and the odds in your favor to get an Albino Pied.

The odds for two double heterozygous (carriers of the gene but not visually expressing them) animals is 1/16....

http://www.tangerinegecko.com/tgpunnett.html

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Albino Pieds are harder.

You need to have two animals with both genes and the odds in your favor to get an Albino Pied.

The odds for two double heterozygous (carriers of the gene but not visually expressing them) animals is 1/16....

http://www.tangerinegecko.com/tgpunnett.html

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This..I can totally understand the confusion what with all the combo's out there today.. But like Heather said to get an Albino Pied you would need to breed two animals that carry in one form or another both genes..

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Originally Posted by pigfat

okay okay.....enough with the jokes! I didn't know if you had to pair other morphs together to get a pied! How do they get an albino pied? Those just seems crazy...saw one on a website for $35,000. I'm guessing it wont sell very quick.

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First step you breed a Pied to an Albino which will produce normal looking animals all carrying the gene for Albino and Pied (DH Albino Pied - DH being double het)

You raise the DH albino pied up, pair them together and hope the odd gods are with you since you have only 1/16 (6.25%) chance to hatch an Albino Pied (those odds are per egg)

Albino Pied are designer morphs as opposed to base morphs :gj:

If you scroll down the forum list, there is set of read only forums that outline many of the base and designer morphs and how to produce them.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/forum...-Python-Morphs

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Well when a mommy pied and a daddy pie love each other very much...:hump:

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HAHAHAHA..you beat me to it.:P

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Originally Posted by RetiredJedi

HAHAHAHA..you beat me to it.:P

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FACT...Jedi's never retire. :D

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Originally Posted by pigfat

FACT...Jedi's never retire. :D

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Tell that to Veterans Affairs Office of the Jedi Temple. There's a 1000 year limit for active Jedi's and he simply got too old and was forced to retire.

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Originally Posted by MasonC2K

Tell that to Veterans Affairs Office of the Jedi Temple. There's a 1000 year limit for active Jedi's and he simply got too old and was forced to retire.

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FORCED :bow::bow::bow:

Pieds are actually quite simple to make...Ball Python + $2 bottle of Clorox and Voila! ya got yourself a Pied. Haha! :D

And anything you saw for 35 grand would have had to have been an outdated price from at least a few years ago. They've come way down since then. :gj: