Scaleless BP

I was surfing the web for dif pyhons and saw a scaleless bp. does anyone know if this is something there triyng to prove genetic?

I'm not sure if anyone is trying to breed them or not. I'd imagine not, because if I remember correctly, unlike scaleless corns, the ball python had some associated "defects" - namely, it didn't have heat pits.

I have no idea if it impacted the snake at all or not, but ever since it was discovered, I haven't heard about it or any plans with it.

I remember seeing what they called the derma ball. But I don't think it was a desired trait. I don't think it would be to healthy.

There's also the purple haze, I don't think theres been anything public about them since their discovery. There are other scaleless animals are in demand namely bearded dragons (we have one) and corn snakes and the thrive in captivity just fine.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

There's also the purple haze, I don't think theres been anything public about them since their discovery. There are other scaleless animals are in demand namely bearded dragons (we have one) and corn snakes and the thrive in captivity just fine.

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Silkbacks are some very unique and beautiful creatures. Eventually I would like to care for one, but I think one beardie at a time is more than enough for me. The scaleless corns are amazing! The only time I've ever seen them are from watching snakebytes TV on YouTube. I would imagine a scaleless BP would be fascinating, unless of course there is an undesirable trait.

PICTURES, PICTURES, PICTURES!!!

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

There's also the purple haze, I don't think theres been anything public about them since their discovery. There are other scaleless animals are in demand namely bearded dragons (we have one) and corn snakes and the thrive in captivity just fine.

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Eugene reported that the Purple Haze died. I believe he's still working with the genetics that produced it.

Eugenes scaleless died a while ago. If im not mistaken, he had been.pairing the same snakes over and over again to see if anything happens again, but it hasnt. I know at one point he was selling a sibling, or maybe even the father (im not sure) for cheap.

IF the scaleless BP was genetic defect free, it would be an amazing, very profitable thing to work with. However, as mentioned, there have been issues.

Being scaleless however would not be a concern, seeing as the other types of reptiles are fine.

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Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch

IF the scaleless BP was genetic defect free, it would be an amazing, very profitable thing to work with. However, as mentioned, there have been issues.

Being scaleless however would not be a concern, seeing as the other types of reptiles are fine.

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They suspect that the scaleless was not a genetic thing but instead an incubation defect. Which is why is may not be reproduced for a while.

I know of a scaleless BP project going on, but I'm not at liberty to say. Aren't I just evil?

But really, be excited.

Edit. It was the derma. Disregard lol.

This just pop on my FB few min ago....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

This just pop on my FB few min ago....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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That's an old picture! Posted here http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...l=1#post741796 back in 2008

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Originally Posted by Alexandra V

I'm not sure if anyone is trying to breed them or not. I'd imagine not, because if I remember correctly, unlike scaleless corns, the ball python had some associated "defects" - namely, it didn't have heat pits.

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You know, I just saw this comment and I feel like pointing out whenever see the "no heat pits" assumption, I can't help but roll my eyes. The scales only define where the heat pits are on the animal's face but the the organ itself is made up of nerves/sensors under the skin and are not some kind of specialized scale. Just because they are no longer defined on the animal's face, doesn't mean they aren't there anymore. It's just like Sphynx cats who do not have whiskers, the hair follicles no longer grow the whisker but the nerves are still there and function just fine.

Sorry for nitpicking this but it's just one of the silliest assumptions I have ever read about the scaleless BPs.

I thought I saw a SnakebytesTV episode a little while back where Brian showed a ball python that was missing scales and he said he was hoping the super would prove out to be a scaleless.

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Originally Posted by Wes

I thought I saw a SnakebytesTV episode a little while back where Brian showed a ball python that was missing scales and he said he was hoping the super would prove out to be a scaleless.

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I was there a few months ago and he had some that are missing scales on the top of their heads. He has a few so I'm assuming its genetic. And he told me the same thing, hoping the super takes it to the next level.