I know there are a lot of these but... Black Pastel or not???

May just be wishful thinking but my female that I bought as a normal posible granite just shed. After she shed (mind the little shed left) I started thinking black pastel.

She has some linked alien heads, minor blushing and her head is light brown. All of my other normal females have dark colored heads. Her belly is also clean with no black but like a sandy colored stripe down the center.

I apologize in advance for the pictures as I was using my cell phone but I took several so you can see different lighting ect.

Even if she is not a black pastel still super thrilled with her just thought I would ask as she will be breeding this year and who wouldnt love a shot at super blacks?

Anyway thank you for your time forum, as alaways your comments are appreciated.

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The first picture alone makes me say No, the pattern is all wrong. The last picture shows a wonderful black color, but it looks like a normal. Check out pics of black pastel on websites and you'll see what I mean about the pattern.

The pattern is great though, so good luck with it!

I have looked at literally 100+ pictures of black pastels and every one is defferent. I have seen lower end black pastels that looked similar so thats why I asked.

I will probably end up putting her with a black pastel anyway just for the heck of it.

I think she's a normal, but she's got some GREAT genes, and I'm sure will compliment a black pastel nicely!!

looks normal. My normal looks like that but her mom was a normal and dad was a mojave.

Looks like a normal to me too, but definitely a pretty dark girl. :)

No, not a black pastel. But dark, and some sign of being something. A bit of a sable/granite look. I'd be more interested in seeing if she produced kids that looked like her when bred to a normal. And if so, if there was a super version.

I definitely think this would make a great black pastel pairing.

Lower end black pastels shouldn't look like that, but be lighter. That's why I mentioned pictures. Unfortunately there are people out there that advertise normals as things they may not be.

Definitely not black pastel... but for sure dinker... Looks Granite-ish to me...

Good luck with her:gj::gj::gj:

I say Noraml with great coloring I would deffinately dinker that one :)

Not a Black Pastel

looks normal, am i the only one who finds that her belly looks kind of unhealthy??

Nice Normal!
I would suggest changing out your substrate, as the bark dust is getting underneath the belly scales of your snake and can cause some issues...

agreed, dinker, but not black pastel

Granite like 4sure:gj:

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Nice Normal!
I would suggest changing out your substrate, as the bark dust is getting underneath the belly scales of your snake and can cause some issues...

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Her belly has been like that since ive had her. I used to keep them on paper towels and her belly was the same.

Well, my suggestion is still valid. Bark dust can cause problems.

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Well, my suggestion is still valid. Bark dust can cause problems.

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and I do appreciate the input. I dont like using aspen shavings and paper towels got to bea lot of work to change out whenever they spilled water or anything else.

I figured I know a lot of people who use the bark and figured it might be a little better.

Do you have any suggestions then on something to use. I just know the if you get a bad batch of aspen you can get mites, and thats not really something I want to deal with.

I heard it was cypress, not aspen that sometimes had the mites? I use sani-chips, I think Heather does too?

But it doesn't look like the first hints of scale rot, it just looks like belly pigmentation in these pics.

She'd make a GREAT partner for my "dinker/black pastel-ish" boy from this year: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-whaddya-think

He's actually spoken for already (as part of a trade with a friend, for an Orange Ghost baby), but that was my first thought on seeing your girl... so you should try to find her a nice dark mate, and then breed her back to any similar males produced. Could make some very cool babies! :)

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Do you have any suggestions then on something to use. I just know the if you get a bad batch of aspen you can get mites, and thats not really something I want to deal with.

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For the Ball Pythons, I simply use newspaper or paper towels... easy to clean, no dust or mold, and they don't really care about burrowing. For the burrowing snakes in my collection (colubrids and a couple Aussie Pythons), I use Carefresh since I'm allergic to wood-based beddings. Some people don't like Carefresh because it's a little dusty, but I personally think it's great stuff! You just have to be on top of spot-cleaning, or it can develop mold around the soiled spots.

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She'd make a GREAT partner for my "dinker/black pastel-ish" boy from this year: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-whaddya-think

He's actually spoken for already (as part of a trade with a friend, for an Orange Ghost baby), but that was my first thought on seeing your girl... so you should try to find her a nice dark mate, and then breed her back to any similar males produced. Could make some very cool babies! :)

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yeah she will be paired with a black pastel this season.