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  • 09-30-2011, 06:22 AM
    kevinb
    How do you rank them?
    I was curious to know how you all rank the "top" breeders, I.e. NERD, Pro Exotics, BHB, Constrictors Unlimited, VPI, etc.

    For me the following.

    #1.) NERD (the reason I got into balls)
    #2.) VPI
    #3.) PE
    #4.) Constrictors Unlimited (Mike Wilbanks)
    #5.) BHB
    #6.) And I can't think of anymore.

    So have at it! Let me see what you rank them as your favorites. :)

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  • 09-30-2011, 06:42 AM
    cmack91
    Re: How do you rank them?
    i have no idea, i just stroll through kingsnake and craigslist lol.
    but this should be an interesting thread to watch, good question:gj:
  • 09-30-2011, 09:23 AM
    kevinb
    I am just curious to other opinions. :)

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  • 09-30-2011, 09:37 AM
    KLMuller
    1 JKR (Very easy to work with perfect animals everytime)
    2 BHB
    3 PE
    4 Nerd
    I haven't dealt with any other big breeders so I can't say for anyone else

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  • 09-30-2011, 09:55 AM
    Kinra
    Honestly I know who the big breeders are but I prefer to buy from Garrick DeMeyer (Royal Constrictor Designs) and my local reptile store (Reptile Rapture). Garrick is great to work with and I really like a lot of what he is producing and he is kind of local for me. Reptile Rapture breeds their own ball pythons and I've been super happy with everything I've gotten there so far. The owner also knows a ton about the different species so any time I want to venture into something new he can help me out. With these two being local I don't really see a need to use any of the big breeders.
  • 09-30-2011, 10:01 AM
    kevinb
    I do like what he makes too. There are so many good bp breeders out there its hard to list a few!

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  • 09-30-2011, 10:11 AM
    crazy ball
    what about ralph davis???isint he a big breeder??
  • 09-30-2011, 11:16 AM
    kevinb
    Like I said there are tons of breeders. I completely forgot about ralph. I would probably put his as #3 for me....no realizing I forgot. :p

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  • 09-30-2011, 11:22 AM
    el8ch
    Unfortunately due to huge export cost to Canada I have yet to purchase any snakes form the listed breeders you mentioned.

    I have spoke with NERD, ECRB and Garrick Demeyer and they were very helpful and professional when I was just getting into the reptile scene.

    As far a Canadian Breeders I am partial to Markus Jayne, Urban Reptile and my local breeder All Reptiles.
  • 09-30-2011, 11:46 AM
    L.West
    Re: How do you rank them?
    In regards to "big" breeders -I've only dealt with Brian from BHB. I purchased a hatchling Albino from him and the whole experience was great from the quality of the snake to the customer service - he even met with me to drop off my new girl - now that's customer service.:):)

    Unfortunately, I haven't had an opportunity to deal with the other "big" breeders - maybe someday.
  • 09-30-2011, 12:15 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    Dont think I can rank them as they are all great but I want to add brock Wagner to that list.

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  • 09-30-2011, 12:34 PM
    All Balled Up
    Yeah I also have only dealt with one big breeder. Dan and Collette Southerland from TSK. Lucky for me I live just a few min from them. They are some of the nicest people I have met. They are willing to help with any questions and have shown me a lot about ball pythons. They have even been nice enough to show me some of their top morphs and wow are they amazing. I also can get my feeder rats from them for way cheaper than anywhere else. They are the best.
  • 09-30-2011, 01:35 PM
    EverEvolvingExotics
    The majority of the snakes and reptiles I have purchased have been through local breeders. I prefer to do to face to face business when possible. I ventured out this year and purchased a couple of snakes from Evan Stahl, I'll post a review when I receive them. So far he has been great to deal with over the phone. Many years ago after going to the Daytona show I purchased a pair of het pieds from Chesapeake Bay Ball Pythons. The shipping was very professional as well.

    Maybe sometime I will find a snake I have to have from one of the big breeders but I have found looking at the snake in person has always been more pleasurable and I'm always able to get a better price. In return I have built local connections with other breeders, I feel like that will help me in the long run.
  • 09-30-2011, 01:44 PM
    kevinb
    All good additions everyone. I'm really sad about the fire ar PE, I was hoping to get some desert stuff from them in a couple years
    :(

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  • 10-02-2011, 02:17 AM
    Clear
    I dont buy based on who the breeder is, I based on the quality of the animal. I always do research on who I am buying from if I cant meet them to check the animal out. So therefor I cant rank any of them.
  • 10-02-2011, 05:32 AM
    Emilio
    Re: How do you rank them?
    The Pioneers.:gj:

    1. Nerd
    2. Ralph Davis
    3. Pete Kahl
    4. BHB
    5. Bob Clark
    6. VPI
    7. Amir Soleymani
  • 10-02-2011, 08:48 AM
    Hypnotic Exotic
    Re: How do you rank them?
    I'm not going to go out there and rank them as it really depends on what they have although I would put NERD #1 just because overall I think they have more mind blowing ball pythons than anyone else. But the big breeders I've bought from are NERD, Mike Wilbanks and VPI and I had good experience with all of them. But I've also had good experience with breeders most of you may not have even heard of. I just buy from whoever has the animal I'm looking for. I am a bit partial to VPI as they are fellow Texans and Tracy Barker is phenomenal to work with. Will be seeing her today at an expo as a matter of fact :D
  • 10-02-2011, 09:29 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    I wouldn't rank NERD as #1 just because they have the high dollar morphs. That isn't really fair.


    I guess I didn't really think about this, but a lot of breeders here are great as well.

    Personally, I have two snakes from Deborah Stewart and they are exceptional :)
  • 10-02-2011, 11:12 AM
    YOSEF
    Re: How do you rank them?
    I have bought reptiles from several different breeders. All of them have sent me amazing stuff.

    Retics : Baldogo reptiles.
    Carpets and Boas : Exceptional Exotics ( Steve Hammond )
    Burmese , Carpets, Balls, Leopard Geckos, Corns and Water Dragons : Risher Reptiles
    Borneo Pythons : ......as far as these go, the nicest ones that I have EVER seen come from Buddy Nester ( OUTLAW ):gj:, Mr. Tim Mead :gj:, Bob Clark.:gj:
    Ornate and Blackthroat Monitors: Rob Faust
    P.E. : Argus Monitors

    Just my 2 cents worth.
    Yosef
  • 10-02-2011, 11:24 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    How do you rank someone?

    Is it based on the size of their collection

    Is it based on the specific designer morphs they have

    Animal quality

    Customer service

    Other.

    I really hate ranking people I have purchased from many breeders from small to large and I can tell you that the little guys do a great job too and are often overlooked.
  • 10-04-2011, 08:10 AM
    kevinb
    I have my ranking based off the number of new morphs they produce each year. I find nerd and vpi along with pe produce the most new morphs a year.

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