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Think it was a split clutch?
I was just admiring my new babies (all but the boobie are out), and I have a sneaking suspicion this clutch had two daddies... the normal mom was obviously with the Mojave, but could my black pastel have fathered an egg too? She did spend a few days with him, although I didn't see any locks - of course that doesn't mean it didn't happen, since I wasn't observing 24/7.
These two babies are both normals, but they couldn't look any different! One looks just like the mom, while the other looks like a normal version of my black pastel... almost to the point that I found myself thinking "is he a black pastel himself?" I thought it was kinda interesting, and was curious to hear your opinions on the matter. Doesn't really make a difference, but it's neat to see such variety in a clutch. :)
Baby #1 (female)
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ersonal048.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_0990.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_0988.jpg
Baby #2 (male)
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_1076.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_1075.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4/IMG_1068.jpg
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
Do you have pics of the parents? Mom and both possible sires?
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#2 could possibly be a black pastel. Wait til they shed and it will be easier to tell.
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by mpkeelee
#2 could possibly be a black pastel. Wait til they shed and it will be easier to tell.
I'm thinking that too, the more I look at him... verrrrry interesting. :oops:
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
I don't see any black pastels...The head color and blushing isn't quite right. They look alot like my dinker though. That's why I wanted to see the parents. Here's my Dinker.
I have a hunch that the female is the culprit for the odd patterned babies. She just looks a little 'different' to me.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...DSC_0005-1.jpg
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im not seeing any black pastel but they both look great either way. congrats
adam jeffery
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Yeah, I wasn't thinking he was a black pastel, but there's definitely something unique about him & mom - plus the other babies also have interesting patterns. Perhaps I should dink around with them? ;)
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I think you made a Black Pastel.
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He sure is interesting, any shots of the belly? I agree that it will be easier once he sheds.
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by AaronP
I think you made a Black Pastel.
Guess this will be a good one to put up for a vote, LOL... I'll do that after his first shed, as I agree it will be more obvious then!
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by jball1125
He sure is interesting, any shots of the belly? I agree that it will be easier once he sheds.
I did take a belly pic, but haven't uploaded it to PB yet - so I'll do that when I get home, as I'm at work (on lunch break ;)) right now. It looks very "dirty" and speckled, though, if that means anything.
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I think he looks more Chocolatey than Black Pastelish.
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by RyanT
I think he looks more Chocolatey than Black Pastelish.
Totally, or even Mahogany... but since I don't have either of those in my collection, that would be a REAL mystery. :D
I wasn't planning to keep any males from this clutch, but he might be fun to dink around with next year. Plus he has a real feisty temperament, so he could be a fun snake to have!
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by Lolo76
Is he/she in blue?
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Btw, I say that is a black pastel,
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by twistedtails
Is he/she in blue?
Nope, that was taken straight outta the egg... neato, huh? :)
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Originally Posted by twistedtails
Btw, I say that is a black pastel,
Seems you're all about 50/50 on that, so I guess we'll have to see how he looks post-shed!
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
That mojave is cool lookin. If it stays purpleish after its first shed I would keep it and breed it back to mom. She kinda has some purple going on also. Nice hatchlings there.
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Ya know, if you give him to me he'll still be local next year to play with... ;)
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by ceduke
Ya know, if you give him to me he'll still be local next year to play with... ;)
Haha... fancy seeing you here!
And actually, I wouldn't be opposed to you taking him - especially if you'll take Betty the brat as a package deal. :P
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by twistedtails
That mojave is cool lookin. If it stays purpleish after its first shed I would keep it and breed it back to mom. She kinda has some purple going on also. Nice hatchlings there.
Thanks! I agree she's pretty cool looking, and will most likely be keeping her... unfortunately I'm fairly certain it's a girl, so breeding back to mom won't happen (at least not directly). ;)
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Btw, can I ask you guys a totally random question (don't want to start a whole new thread)... how long is TOO long for a pipper to stay pipped? My little boobie-baby is STILL in his egg, very much alive and alert, but has been like that for almost 3 days. It's driving me crazy!! His yolk is basically gone, can't see any wrapped umbilicus, so WTH?
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He'll come out. Just make sure the fluid in the egg stays clean. If it starts looking off kr getting smell then you have another problem. People that cut often have babies in the egg for over 5 days depending on when they cut. So 3 isn't bad. As long as he looks good and you don't see any threatening issues he'll come out in his own. Just keep and eye on the fluid. It builds bacteria after awhile easily. A good flushing may be in order.
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Re: Think it was a split clutch?
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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales
He'll come out. Just make sure the fluid in the egg stays clean. If it starts looking off kr getting smell then you have another problem. People that cut often have babies in the egg for over 5 days depending on when they cut. So 3 isn't bad. As long as he looks good and you don't see any threatening issues he'll come out in his own. Just keep and eye on the fluid. It builds bacteria after awhile easily. A good flushing may be in order.
It does smell kinda funky in there, but it has since the last week or so of incubation - not sure why, since the eggs were obviously fine. If he doesn't come out before I go to sleep, I'll go ahead and flush it... how should I do that? I don't have distilled water or saline on-hand.
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Just checked on him, and there's basically NO fluid left... he's 110% ready to come out, just taking his sweet time. :rolleyes:
Btw, he's been PEEKING for 3 days - cut for almost a week. So that's why I'm getting annoyed with the little snakelet!
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I'd be annoyed to. If there's no fluid a good Thing to do may be to add some distilled water or saline. Anything to keep things nicely moist and hydrated.
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He finally came out... a whopping 35g (actually bigger than I predicted), with a slightly swollen and purple-ish belly. Hoping that's just because the yolk was too much for his little body. :(
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Yes he's probably just got a full belly.
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