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Piebald gaining a spot

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  • 09-27-2011, 01:26 AM
    mues155
    Piebald gaining a spot
    I first got my Piebald back in March then a few months ago he started getting a new black spot.
    It started with just one scale turning black, now its spread to four. It will be kind of fun once its done growing to see where it ends.

    http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC09527-1.jpg
    http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture052-1.jpg
  • 09-27-2011, 01:27 AM
    llovelace
    lol, that's cool :)
  • 09-27-2011, 01:34 AM
    mues155
    has anyone ever had this happen to them?
    We have another snake, a mexican black kingsnake that formed a series of white scales under his chin that he never had.
    We just think its so weird.
  • 09-27-2011, 02:15 AM
    BallsUnlimited
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mues155 View Post
    has anyone ever had this happen to them?
    We have another snake, a mexican black kingsnake that formed a series of white scales under his chin that he never had.
    We just think its so weird.

    my high white pied female had the same thing happen. heres a few pics of the spots she developed over time.

    http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4912858_n.jpg
    http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...868_4263_n.jpg
    http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._6528353_n.jpg
    http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6555244_n.jpg
  • 09-27-2011, 02:58 AM
    mues155
    hmm very cool! must just be a pied thing.
  • 09-27-2011, 03:00 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    yeah it happens with lots of pieds,

    must have something to do with the melanocortin1 receptors being unblocked or degraded or something
  • 09-27-2011, 03:02 AM
    BallsUnlimited
    i dunno what it is but sometimes i wish they didnt show up and other times i love them. deff a love hate thing. hopefully soon ill be able to raise up a bunch of pieds and see if they too develop spots like the female i have. and if u look close in the first picture i posted you can see her random yellow spot
  • 09-27-2011, 03:10 AM
    mues155
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited View Post
    i dunno what it is but sometimes i wish they didnt show up and other times i love them. deff a love hate thing. hopefully soon ill be able to raise up a bunch of pieds and see if they too develop spots like the female i have. and if u look close in the first picture i posted you can see her random yellow spot

    Yeah I'd rather he didn't have the spot but theres nothing I can do about it so its fine.
    I'm sure his offspring will be fine little babies anyways. :)
  • 09-27-2011, 03:50 AM
    loonunit
    A lot of high white pieds seem to get those spots as they age. All I have are low whites, so I don't know, but I've seen pictures of some in Kahl's collection that even have them in semi-ordered patterns, which are AWESOME.

    And my herp vet was trying to convince me that he saw a whole family of high whites that had a sort of X-marks the spot pattern that appeared on their white patches. (I told him he was making it up, but I'm secretly hoping one will turn up at the Phoenix reptile show this year.)
  • 09-27-2011, 03:54 AM
    bill.allred
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mues155 View Post
    has anyone ever had this happen to them?
    We have another snake, a mexican black kingsnake that formed a series of white scales under his chin that he never had.
    We just think its so weird.

    Mexican blacks sometimes get this, not uncommon, a lot of mine have white spots they developed.
  • 09-27-2011, 04:11 AM
    mues155
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bill.allred View Post
    Mexican blacks sometimes get this, not uncommon, a lot of mine have white spots they developed.
    Thats so weird! we adopted our MBK and almost a month later with her shed she had white scales almost in the shape of a messed up lightning bolt! funny, some snakes just change like that.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    A lot of high white pieds seem to get those spots as they age. All I have are low whites, so I don't know, but I've seen pictures of some in Kahl's collection that even have them in semi-ordered patterns, which are AWESOME.
    I would love if he got more of them and they actually formed a pattern, that I would like. It'll be interesting to see if he gets more or how big this spot will get.

  • 09-27-2011, 08:03 AM
    JulieInNJ
    That's very, very cool!
  • 09-27-2011, 11:32 AM
    DC Reptiles
    I'll need to get a pic of my males spot, and see if it grows in time. Hes got just one little tiny black spot near his vent, it will be intereting to see if it grows in time or if he develops more.
  • 09-27-2011, 03:46 PM
    mues155
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DC Reptiles View Post
    I'll need to get a pic of my males spot, and see if it grows in time. Hes got just one little tiny black spot near his vent, it will be intereting to see if it grows in time or if he develops more.

    its kinda fun and interesting isnt it? I'd love to see the picture.
  • 09-27-2011, 04:24 PM
    Brian Fobian
    Very common for white pieds
  • 09-27-2011, 04:37 PM
    purplemuffin
    it reminds me of tvs or computer screens when you get 'dead/stuck pixels'! :D I like it!
  • 09-27-2011, 06:57 PM
    Ch^10
    My high-white female (Kahl line) has a single scale that is black. She's an 08' and I don't think anymore will develop, but it would be neat if some did.

    To the OP, I like the larger, 4-scale spot!
  • 09-27-2011, 08:11 PM
    K2exotics
    I have a dinker female who is gaining a piece of pattern in her white flame I dont think it is just pieds but cool none the less.. maybe we just notice it more on the pieds because they lack so much color to hide the small changes
  • 09-27-2011, 09:39 PM
    mues155
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by purplemuffin View Post
    it reminds me of tvs or computer screens when you get 'dead/stuck pixels'! :D I like it!

    Yes! I love that!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K2exotics View Post
    I have a dinker female who is gaining a piece of pattern in her white flame I dont think it is just pieds but cool none the less.. maybe we just notice it more on the pieds because they lack so much color to hide the small changes

    I was thinking of that myself. Of course pieds or white snakes are easy to tell if patterns change. thats cool that you noticed! I dont suppose you have any pictures of the difference?
  • 09-28-2011, 01:35 AM
    bman123
    I would call it a beauty mark lol
  • 09-28-2011, 12:04 PM
    K2exotics
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mues155 View Post
    I was thinking of that myself. Of course pieds or white snakes are easy to tell if patterns change. thats cool that you noticed! I dont suppose you have any pictures of the difference?

    I might be able to find one luckily she is our first snake and so I was much more picture happy when I first got her than I have been lately, I will look around and see what I can find :)
  • 09-28-2011, 12:08 PM
    Lucas339
    its more common across the board than you guys might think. this is super common with texas leucy rats.
  • 09-28-2011, 12:32 PM
    Redneck_Crow
    My pied has developed a couple of extra small black spots as she grew. Personally, I think that they are an improvement.
  • 09-28-2011, 12:41 PM
    jbean7916
    I like them! They look like freckles!!!
  • 09-28-2011, 06:45 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    That's pretty cool!
  • 09-28-2011, 06:51 PM
    mues155
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lucas339 View Post
    its more common across the board than you guys might think. this is super common with texas leucy rats.

    we have a leucy texas rat as well and shes gained single red scales actually. They havnt spread to other scales. She has maybe 3 on her whole body. Its very interesting.
  • 09-28-2011, 06:51 PM
    mues155
    Re: Piebald gaining a spot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K2exotics View Post
    I might be able to find one luckily she is our first snake and so I was much more picture happy when I first got her than I have been lately, I will look around and see what I can find :)

    great! I hope you can find some pictures!
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