humidity help

i need some ideas to help raise my humidity i cant seen to get it above 35% and that's right after i mist and with a water dish i have a 20l tank with a screen top that is covered about 75% with foil, i use aspen as a substrate im currently running a 75W day time heat lamp i get my temps where they should be hot cool and ambient i do not have a uth at the moment bacuase i havent purchased a thermostat to run it. everytime i come home from work the water dish is empty from the lamp evaporating all the water. if i switch from a bulb to a ceramic heat emitter would this help?

Are you putting the water dish below the light fixure? What are you using to read the humidity?

Pics would be helpful are you using dial guages or digital?

Gonna be hard to get your humidity up using heat lamps

i use all digital thermometers i have a zoomed digital with probe underneath the hot side and i have a accurite with temp/humidity and i have the probe from that under the cool side i dont use both lamps one has a night bulb and one has a daytime bulb i switch them around

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Looks like the setup is new huh? 4get that water dish, use a bigger deeper water bowl then that thing. You can use a bowl you might have in your house for now but I would get a bigger bowl he/she can't tip over.

The light is most likely eating up all the humidity. Get a bigger deeper water dish as said above.

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yea it is a new set up i have had my bp for about 3 weeks now im new to the snake thing but not new to keeping other reptiles ill try putting a bigger bowl in there and see what that does i may even try to put some moss in a tupperware container with a hole cut in the top and see if that helps out too maybe the light wont suck all the moisture out then . also when i do get a tstat to run a uth will i be able to ditch the light completely?

Some fake plants always helped me out because when you mist some drops would form and create a good humidity level.

x3 on bigger deeper water dish we added a much bigger dish keeps my humidity at 60% pretty regular

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i need some ideas to help raise my humidity i cant seen to get it above 35% and that's right after i mist and with a water dish i have a 20l tank with a screen top that is covered about 75% with foil, i use aspen as a substrate im currently running a 75W day time heat lamp i get my temps where they should be hot cool and ambient i do not have a uth at the moment bacuase i havent purchased a thermostat to run it. everytime i come home from work the water dish is empty from the lamp evaporating all the water. if i switch from a bulb to a ceramic heat emitter would this help?

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I had the same exact issues you had when I first got my baby ball, same setup, etc. The best and biggest change I made was to get rid of the Aspen, I switched to coconut husk substrate. Once I started using that my humidity is always 55-65%. Aspen doesn't hold moisture well even with a cover screen and larger water dish. Just my 2 cents :)

Humid hide. problem solved. If you cut a hole avoid closed holes ones that are cut in the middle of things and stick with U shaped ones on edges snakes cannot get stuck in U shaped ones ever....

Never sacrifice heat for humidity. your temps 79 cool and 82 warm are already low if that is the correct readings typically 78-82 low and 88-94 high are believed to be a safe gradient. Worry about the temps fiddle with humidity after you get your temps correct.

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Humid hide. problem solved. If you cut a hole avoid closed holes ones that are cut in the middle of things and stick with U shaped ones on edges snakes cannot get stuck in U shaped ones ever....

Never sacrifice heat for humidity. your temps 79 cool and 82 warm are already low if that is the correct readings typically 78-82 low and 88-94 high are believed to be a safe gradient. Worry about the temps fiddle with humidity after you get your temps correct.

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my temps are correct its 79 under the cool hide and 82 ambient i have another digital thermometer on the hot side and its between 87-90

Make sure that the hygrometer sensor is ok (i have never seen humidity that low). I'd do the salt test.
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79 is still a low for the cold side you want low to mid 80s. Once you get a tsat and UTH you can ditch the lamp. Hydrofarm tstats are cheap and work good, that's what I'm running right now. I would get one ASAP along with a UTH.

personally I'd say 79 is fine especially for a small snake they don't need as much heat. I only saw the one set of temps. That would be a yellow (zoo med?) thermometer with a white cord. Sorry I missed that.

Correct temps is the first step. I am not a huge fan of CHEs or heat lights but you have them tuned now. My preference is UTHs I feel they are easier to get right. That is a preference. Every set up and every location is different, there is no right or wrong really just set ups that are working and ones that are not working. Yours is half working.

I would try to get the humidity up some, at least in the 40% area and add a humid hide. As suggested coco coir holds tons of humidity it is cheap and looks nice and can be digested by snakes. It is my fav substrate for these reasons.

That should bring it up a fair bit you may find that it will solve thing alone but I'd guess that it would not completely but a humid hide in conjunction should be 'liveable' for you with out the need for constant mistings. I have an open top tank like yours with UTHs and I mist it once or twice a month lots of coco coir on the cool end and about 1/4 of the lid covered, with a large water bowl.

Check the accurite (salt test) I have in the past found them to be quite poor for accuracy in both temps and humidity. I am not a fan of them at all. Especially as in my area they are 22 + bucks and for that I can get 2 or 3 calibrate able hygrometers and the same thermometers.

If you're up for the task you can give this setup a shot
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...arium-Solution

I will be attempting it this weekend but from what I've read from people who have done this, it's not too hard and helps a ton with heat/humidity.

The 'lucy lid' works super well but it will not work with CHEs that the op is using that is why I didn't post that. I need to post a variation I have been working on... cheaper easier hinges.

im gonna ditch the aspen and get some coco husk. i was going to get it in the first place but i figured i wouldn't have to fight with keeping the humidity up so much with the aspen so well see how that goes ill keep you guys posted with my findings

alright i replaced the aspen with coco fiber and added a tupperware container for a water dish added a small fake plant and misted and humidity is up to 59% as of now

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=1#post1631478

I was having some humidity issues like you were. I've also been having a tough time keeping my tank as warm as I should. There is a video in the link that I shared (you may have to scroll down). It shows what one guy did to his tank screen. It's not the prettiest fanciest fix, but I bet that you have everything in your house right now to do it.

I did do mine a little differently though. I cut 2 holes for my lights. I did not have a piece of plexi glass for the sliding section, but I did put foil on another piece of card board instead. The new lid along with the wet wash cloth worked great. I actually had to turn of one of the lights because it was getting too warm and my humidity went right up to 58%!!!

At some point in time I think I will be buying/building something better, but for now, I'm happy. My tank doesn't have to be pretty. Everyone I know is too scared to come look at her anyway... lol. I just don't understand being afraid of snakes.