Have you seen the Caramel Pied?

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=878359

It's better than I would have expected! Just imagine one with medium white...:bow:

Sorry, I should have posted this in morphs and genetics...

I seen one in person at Daytona,it had more white and it was insane,even soo much more beautiful in person. It truly was amazing!!!!!! I would have never imagined it would have been that amazing, you have to see it in person even way more unbelievable!!!

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Originally Posted by The Mad Baller

I seen one in person at Daytona,it had more white and it was insane,even soo much more beautiful in person. It truly was amazing!!!!!! I would have never imagined it would have been that amazing, you have to see it in person even way more unbelievable!!!

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I think the same thing about normal caramels. I can't imagine what a caramel pied would look like in person!

Would rather see an Ultramel Pied!

Yes! I want to see an ultramel version as well!

In the far away future I hope to work with ultramels... Would be incredible to get ultramel pieds with how stunning the caramels look! :) It's nice to see another pied combo that's a little more drastic than being just a tiny bit more orange/yellow... This one looks great to me!

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Originally Posted by purplemuffin

It's nice to see another pied combo that's a little more drastic than being just a tiny bit more orange/yellow... This one looks great to me!

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That's what I liked about it the most, I like combos like spieds and such but I'd rather see more pattern on the body over just the head. The ultramel pied would be a site to see...

I imagine the carmel pied will be like the enchi pies and wont come with medium white. Like how spider pied dont have medium pattern. But it will be interesting to see. But its definately gorgeous

Not a fan of pieds but I like that one...

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Originally Posted by Lopezxx2

I imagine the carmel pied will be like the enchi pies and wont come with medium white. Like how spider pied dont have medium pattern. But it will be interesting to see. But its definately gorgeous

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The Mad Baller said he saw one in Daytona with more white, not sure how much more but...

They look insane!

That's hot!! 35k??

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Originally Posted by LotsaBalls

That's hot!! 35k??

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Yup, for only $35,000 you can have one too!

I saw it in Daytona, it was bada$$

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

I saw it in Daytona, it was bada$$

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I bet! I was pretty sad not seeing your name on this years vendor list for the Tucson show.

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Originally Posted by eel588

I bet! I was pretty sad not seeing your name on this years vendor list for the Tucson show.

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Sorry, my year is a little behind schedule compared to last year and I was already committed to Daytona and Anaheim. It's a good show and you should have a good time. I may stop by late on Saturday just to check things out.

I love the way they look. If everything goes well....i should be breeding double hets in 5 years :(

But here is a link to more pics of Caramel Pied on world of Ball Pythons:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-upscale-line/

He is pretty. :)

Dumb question, what combo is an ultramel?

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Ultramel is it's own morph. Same as a carmel but no problems with kinks and deformities. It's the new and improved Carmel.


Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

Sorry, my year is a little behind schedule compared to last year and I was already committed to Daytona and Anaheim. It's a good show and you should have a good time. I may stop by late on Saturday just to check things out.

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It is a surprisingly good show. I had a lot of fun last year too. I'll probably end up going to the Phoenix show as well if I have off.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

Ultramel is it's own morph. Same as a carmel but no problems with kinks and deformities. It's the new and improved Carmel.


Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

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Has anyone made an ultra glow? Caramel glows are one of those must have combos IMO.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

Ultramel is it's own morph. Same as a carmel but no problems with kinks and deformities. It's the new and improved Carmel.


Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

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Ahh okay! I'm not very up to date on all the carmel, unltramel, carmel glow stuff...

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Originally Posted by eel588

Has anyone made an ultra glow? Caramel glows are one of those must have combos IMO.

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Not yet, I have 2011 3.3 Pastel het Ultramel Glow and regular double hets so in a couple of years. There are older double hets out there.

Paired Ultramel and Pied this year but looks like she reabsorbed. Will put him to three pieds next year. Again, there are others out there ready to breed next season.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

Ultramel is it's own morph. Same as a carmel but no problems with kinks and deformities. It's the new and improved Carmel.


Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

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I have yet to see an ultramel that I actually thought was all that amazing. They just don't "do it for me," at least I haven't seen one that does yet.

... I'm not saying I love all caramels -- in fact, I think a lot of them are truly blah-looking -- but I really have yet to see any ultramel stuff that really blows me away. Until that time I don't think I can consider the ultramel the "new and improved" caramel ... A different, similar morph, absolutely, but I do think they're different enough so as not to totally step all over caramels.

I know caramel has a decent set of problems (kinking, female subfertility), but it seems like now every time something caramel-related is posted, people have to come over and pee on it waving the ultramel flag ... No offense to the ultramel; I just don't see why they can't just be separate morphs. (Since, genetically, they are.)

... Back before it was known that some womas have neurologic problems just like spiders, people still didn't post all over spider-related posts with, "Spiders spin, get a woma!" (Or if they did, I missed it :oops:)

I'm honestly not trying to be incendiary, just saying ...

On-topic, yep I think that caramel pied is NICE. (Not saying the ultramel pied won't also be nice ... But that doesn't make those caramel pieds any LESS nice!)

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Originally Posted by eel588

Yup, for only $35,000 you can have one too!

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I wonder why the one in Daytona was $10k less...?

Yea the one in Daytona was $25K