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The Puzzle... SOLVED!!

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  • 09-18-2011, 10:29 AM
    Sean : EbN
    The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    Hello everyone,

    We are all very happy over here...

    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/puzzle/1.jpg

    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/puzzle/2.jpg

    Here he is.... the very first ever NORMAL PUZZLE!!!!! I've been telling everyone for years that it was just TOO SOON to assume that this gene was linked directly to Pastel. So now we have done it... this project is now ready to be mixed with EVERYTHING!!!

    The Puzzle Ball is SIMPLE RECESSIVE, based on our observation there are no accurate markers for the normal heterozygous animals as hatchlings. As they age, the older hets seem very light and somewhat orange in color. All of the Pastel homozygous and het versions seem to be incredibly clean and bright yellow.

    Here are a few more pics...

    100% Het Puzzle & Puzzle
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/puzzle/3.jpg

    100% Het Puzzle & Puzzle - Note the eye stripe break
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/puzzle/4.jpg

    Puzzle & Pastel Puzzle
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/puzzle/5.jpg

    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/puzzle/6.jpg

    Here is an interesting one... Pastel Desert 100% Het Puzzle! These seem to have displayed a tiny bit of Puzzle? I have been told by many people that their Pastel Deserts look a LOT like Pastel Puzzles but please notice the eye and head pattern, they are very different! I can't wait to see the Pastel Desert Puzzle!!
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/paste...etpuzzle/3.jpg

    I know this was posted recently but I wanted to get this all in one post for everyone to view more easily... The Buzz (Bumblebee Puzzle)
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/buzz/3.jpg

    Here is an old pic from 2009 of the very first Pastel Puzzle and Super Pastel Puzzle...
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/mike.jpg

    And one more Super Pastel Puzzle for good measure ;)
    http://www.exoticsbynature.com/sale/...9SPPZF01/1.jpg

    Thanks for reading all of this! It is a great feeling to have gone through this project this long. This project has come full circle for us now and as I said above... it really NEEDS to be mixed with everything!
  • 09-18-2011, 10:31 AM
    sho220
    Wow!!!
  • 09-18-2011, 10:34 AM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Cool - I really like the color modifications to the pastels more than the pattern aspect of it. I'd can't wait to see it crossed into some of the BEL complex - mojos, lessers, etc. I bet a pastel butter puzzle is going to be a sick animal!
  • 09-18-2011, 10:43 AM
    rabernet
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    I LOVE it, and would love to get into this project one day. I'm quite sure it's out of my reach right now! LOL

    Congratulations Sean!!!!
  • 09-18-2011, 10:44 AM
    EverEvolvingExotics
    This will be a very exciting gene to work with. Congrats! Great shots by the way, I love the 100% het and the puzzle starring at each other.
  • 09-18-2011, 11:18 AM
    Shadows Valkyrie
    Congrats to you :gj:

    Can't wait to see what the future will bring when the mixing begins :D

  • 09-18-2011, 11:47 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Sean, that is awesome I'm glad to see that you finally hammered out the Puzzle. Can't wait to see what you do with it.


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  • 09-18-2011, 11:55 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Really a great project love it :bow:

    Congrats Sean :gj:
  • 09-18-2011, 11:58 AM
    King's Royal Pythons
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean : EbN View Post
    it really NEEDS to be mixed with everything!

    Well, go ahead and send me a couple, I'll start breeding them with everything I have, just to help you out! lol

    They are really nice!!
  • 09-18-2011, 12:04 PM
    kevinb
    That super pastel puzzle is insane!

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  • 09-18-2011, 12:10 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Killer project Sean, I love how the puzzle messes with the pastel and that buzz is hot.
    Congrats for working out the "puzzle" :)
  • 09-18-2011, 12:39 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Oh wow congrats!!!! I'm so glad you proved it out as a simple recessive gene! I have always loved what the puzzle did to the pastel gene. Good luck, and I can't wait to see what you make in the future!
  • 09-18-2011, 02:05 PM
    SilverDemon
    I'm looking forward to the Lesser Puzzle and the Pastel Lesser Puzzle! I think that both snakes would be SMOKING hot!
  • 09-18-2011, 02:10 PM
    alexestrada17
    WOW! Congrats guys!! I can't wait to see some more Puzzle combos!! :gj:
  • 09-18-2011, 02:33 PM
    meowmeowkazoo
    Congratulations! I *love* the busy pattern on that animal! I can't wait to see someone cross that with a Mojave, or maybe even a Leopard or a Yellowbelly. So amazing! :D
  • 09-18-2011, 02:37 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Holy crap!
  • 09-18-2011, 03:01 PM
    snake lab
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    Ooooooooooo the possibilities. Great now another thing to wrap the brain around. Awesome man congrats
  • 09-18-2011, 04:16 PM
    CCfive
    Wow! I have a new favorite base morph. i've never really seen puzzles. I absolutely love the pastel puzzle. i can't wait to see all the future combos!!
    Congrats!:gj::gj::bow::bow:
  • 09-18-2011, 09:19 PM
    bassistjon112
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    I guess it's just me but the het puzzle looks the same as the puzzle to me except the color..
  • 09-18-2011, 09:25 PM
    mainbutter
    I've had a strong feeling since I first read about your project that we would see this before long. Congrats on producing your first "normal" puzzle!
  • 09-18-2011, 09:33 PM
    Jason Bowden
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    Congrats Sean! Exciting project!
    They all look great!
  • 09-18-2011, 09:48 PM
    Lopezxx2
    You can send me some:) Ill work on mixing it into everything haha. Congrats and good luck furthering it
  • 09-18-2011, 10:52 PM
    Austin236
    Awesome! such cool snakes!
  • 09-18-2011, 11:26 PM
    xFenrir
    :bow: Wow!! I love it! Can't wait to see this popping up in other combos, I'm sure the Puzzle is going to make some SICK creations!
  • 09-19-2011, 12:39 AM
    meowmeowkazoo
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bassistjon112 View Post
    I guess it's just me but the het puzzle looks the same as the puzzle to me except the color..

    Nah, the puzzle has a much more reduced pattern, and is missing the eye stripe. :)
  • 09-19-2011, 10:09 AM
    muddoc
    You know how I feel about this Bro. Grats on finally getting the gene isolated. I can't wait for the future of this mutation.
  • 09-19-2011, 10:09 AM
    Sean : EbN
    Re: The Puzzle... SOLVED!!
    I would like to thank you ALL for the kind words! This project wouldn't have been possible without the original client of mine. Unfortunately he was forced out of the hobby by an unfortunate situation with the local government in his parish (county everywhere else LOL). They passed an "anti exotic pet" law that eliminated the rights to keep anything other than a domestic dog or cat!! We assume they did this in response to the Everglades feral snake media explosion.

    I think this project has been a blessing to us all so far. The possibilities are somewhat endless for ANY Ball Python project nowadays but this one is a color and pattern mutation! I love it and I am both very happy and VERY sad to see some of these great things in other collections...

    USA Participants thus far...

    Bailey & Bailey Reptiles
    Ben Renick Reptiles
    Exotics by Nature Co.
    NoCo Reptiles
    Pacific Coast Reptiles
    Sloan Reptiles

    I have a great feeling about what is going to happen with this project in the next few years...
  • 09-19-2011, 10:14 AM
    JulieInNJ
    Wow....just...WOW!
  • 09-20-2011, 06:17 PM
    Akren_905
    Wow this is hands down the sweetest snakes ive seen. This is what everyone want when they are trying to prove out a dinks but wow. Mix it with cinimon and enchi for me :D i really want to see those. But yellowbelly for sure it would be crazy! Congratulations! :bow:
  • 09-20-2011, 06:25 PM
    Cendalla
    Fantastic project. I really like the pastel puzzle. I'd like to see a pastel yellow belly puzzle and maybe a pastel lesser puzzle. Very nice, though. I'll keep an eye on this project. :)
  • 09-21-2011, 11:32 PM
    MakiMaki
    Really, really awesome!

    Huge Congrats, and I can't wait to see what the future brings.
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