Where's all the drymarchon fans?

Hey, I know this is a ball python forum - and I know they come in all colors and you can keep them in tidy little drawers and only have to clean poop once a week at the most............

.........but how about some love for the poop cannons of the snake world? The cribos and indigos?

A little black tail love:
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Some people call them unicolors, but I think they are the same as black tails. Pssst.....keep that quiet, because if that opinion takes hold, some people will accuse me of crashing their market. After all, if black tail they lack, the cash is whack:
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There was a time when a yellow tail had a yellow tail. Now we got people mixing up localities to get the yellow out and about. Apparently, this makes a superior animal:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/DSCN0065.jpg
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An indigo, however, is still an indigo. Thank God you can't make a black snake any blacker:
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No offense to our brethren who prefer the docile and many hued ball. Take my last two pictures in the spirit of good fun:
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4..._poster002.jpg

Gorgeous snakes :D Funny ending. LOL.

Regards,

B

Awesome :gj::gj::gj:

You know of few Ball keepers have love for other species ;)

I am definitely a big fan of indigos, would own one in a heart beat if I could.

I've always been fascinated with indigos. I actually got to hold my first indigo at the last reptile expo. It was amazing! I really want one someday, but they're a bit out of my price range at the moment.

In my top 5 favorite snakes list for sure. Just not legal here.

Indigos and black tails are amazing! Definitely on my list of species to care for someday when we settle down. Yours are gorgeous!!

Love the posters, too. Made me LOL!

Awesome snakes Skip. I actually had two spots open for some new species, and yellow tails were on my list. However, with the number of snakes I have, I didn't think it would be wise to add something that required additional cleanning time. I didn't want to neglect such a great animal. Maybe one day I will still get a pair.

Those are truly some amazing animals! Loved the last picture by the way.

My number one want but, alas, they are illegal in my state.

Mine is definitely the best snake I've ever owned! I love him! His 6' boaphile just arrived today, I'll be moving him in tomorrow!

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Mine is definitely the best snake I've ever owned! I love him! His 6' boaphile just arrived today, I'll be moving him in tomorrow!

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Who did you get him from?

I got him from a forum member at another site. He was originally produced by Robert Bruce. I was lucky to find him, I noticed that another person in CA had one, sent him a message asking him who he got his from, and he said that the snake was a Robert Bruce animal, and then added that he was moving and needed to find a home for his and by the way would I like him for a great price? :D What timing!

People were hinting at these guys being expensive, what do they run? Just curious.

Hatchlings run $800 - $1200 ish.

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Originally Posted by adamsky27

People were hinting at these guys being expensive, what do they run? Just curious.

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Indigos - both Texas and Eastern - run anywhere from $800 to $1200.

Blacktails/Unicolors are $300 to $400.

Yellowtails are $400 to $500.

Rubidus are about the same as Texans and Easterns.

There is some variance. Some people will charge you more for a linebred animal that has no tail color or for a line bred animal that has enhanced yellow (YT).

Blacktails are mellow, as are Texans and Easterns. Yellowtails can be a bit more high strung.

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I got him from a forum member at another site. He was originally produced by Robert Bruce. I was lucky to find him, I noticed that another person in CA had one, sent him a message asking him who he got his from, and he said that the snake was a Robert Bruce animal, and then added that he was moving and needed to find a home for his and by the way would I like him for a great price? :D What timing!

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He's got a bit of red in his mug...............a great price on an indigo is a good thing.

I snapped this new one of my guy recently and I really like it

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...rendel/032.jpg

Looking to add a Black tail to my collection after the new year and finish paying off the kids Christmas and the down payment on my wifes new car.

I recently added a 2011 Black Tail to my collection from Gary Kettring. Probably one of the most interesting snakes I have ever kept. It's amazing how quickly they seem to digest their prey. It's also interesting that they can't unhinge their jaw like other snakes. It was their handsome faces that really won me over though. :)

Their Asian equivalent is also an enjoyable species and while usually very spunky, they are a cheap alternative. King Rats or Stinking Goddesses (Elaphe carinata). I added both to my collection within a month or so of each other. While I'm enjoying both, the cribo seems to have won the spot as my favorite.

Gorgeous animals! Thanks for sharing!

A black tail cribo is at the TOP of my wish list! These pics are all really great! I met an '08 cribo at the Taylor MI show a couple weeks ago, all 5ft of macho-ness, and now I'm kicking myself for not bringing him home with me right then.....

are indigos snake eaters?

Just how much poop are we talking about here? XD I love their faces, particularly the black tails. I don't think I have enough experience yet, but I'd love to have one someday.

I'm a new drymarchon fan!! I had never heard of them before! I loove them now! So cool! Definitely like some of the cribos, as well as the indigos... Super awesome!

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Originally Posted by SkYyame

are indigos snake eaters?

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They will eat anything the can catch, chew into submission and swallow - snakes included.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

They will eat anything the can catch, chew into submission and swallow - snakes included.

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So they would chew a ball python out instead of constricting it?

What happens if you put them with a kingsnake or a king cobra for that matter?

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Originally Posted by SkYyame

So they would chew a ball python out instead of constricting it?

What happens if you put them with a kingsnake or a king cobra for that matter?

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They don't constrict. They overpower and swallow. They sometimes bash their prey against things. I have had cribos smash prey against the floors of their cage, the walls of their cages and against items in the cage.

Any suggestions on where/who to get eastern indigo's from? An eight foot female was my first ever herp experience and I loved her to pieces (18 years ago). I would love to find one again but have no clue where to go and how to find them that are local specific and not crossed. I do have a friend who has a pair but the female is young and isn't really planing on breeding (he just likes to have and care for endangered animals). I would love suggestions! :)


P.S. To above post....She eat ANYTHING. With much enthusiasm!! I have never seen a snake that could compare to that appetite!

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Any suggestions on where/who to get eastern indigo's from? An eight foot female was my first ever herp experience and I loved her to pieces (18 years ago). I would love to find one again but have no clue where to go and how to find them that are local specific and not crossed. I do have a friend who has a pair but the female is young and isn't really planing on breeding (he just likes to have and care for endangered animals). I would love suggestions! :)


P.S. To above post....She eat ANYTHING. With much enthusiasm!! I have never seen a snake that could compare to that appetite!

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I'd recommend Robert Harper and Steve Fuller.

There are others out there. I got mine from Robert Seib whose snakes appear in many lines, but alas Dr. Seib is not breeding indigos anymore.

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Originally Posted by ShockBunny

Just how much poop are we talking about here? XD I love their faces, particularly the black tails. I don't think I have enough experience yet, but I'd love to have one someday.

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Soon after you feed them, and often for a day or two. The consistency is a cross between baby food and velcro.

It is unlike python or boa poop. The smell hits you as soon as you walk into a snake room with a dry in it.

I'd also be interested in any recommendations on where to get one. I'm mostly interested in the black tails. I like the indigos, but after handling a cribo, that's what I want. Any suggestions Skip (or anyone else)???

Baby food and velcro? XD I'm having a tough time picturing that. They're so cool, though, it may be worth it. Maybe when I'm done with school and settled down.

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I'd also be interested in any recommendations on where to get one. I'm mostly interested in the black tails. I like the indigos, but after handling a cribo, that's what I want. Any suggestions Skip (or anyone else)???

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Some people are still selling the last of the 2011 babies on kingsnake. A baby blacktail male won't set you back that much money.

I'm planning on breeding the "unicolors" and black tails this year, but babies won't be ready until summer if the breeding schedule works out the same as in past years. My uni male is off feed which is an indicator that he should be ready for his girlfriend soon. My male black tails aren't showing signs of being ready yet.

If you've never owned a cribo before, start with a baby. An adult black tail is an intimidating animal - quick moving, strong and with an aggressive feeding response. It's much easier to start with a juvenile and grow into the snake.

They key to these animals is to keep the ambient in the mid to low 70s and to make sure they stay well hydrated. You can't keep them like a ball python or a boa - they do not handle temps over the high 70s low 80s well at all.

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Baby food and velcro? XD I'm having a tough time picturing that. They're so cool, though, it may be worth it. Maybe when I'm done with school and settled down.

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Runny, sticky and stinky.

Does that help?

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Runny, sticky and stinky.

Does that help?

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Ewww, lovely. XD Sounds like an adventure.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

I'd recommend Robert Harper and Steve Fuller.

There are others out there. I got mine from Robert Seib whose snakes appear in many lines, but alas Dr. Seib is not breeding indigos anymore.

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wow ! (robert harper) is my chemestry teacher ! haha i did not notice you referenced him in here but i agree he has some of the most impressive indigos i have ever seen ! highly recomend him ! i believe he has some babies still avalable too !

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wow ! (robert harper) is my chemestry teacher ! haha i did not notice you referenced him in here but i agree he has some of the most impressive indigos i have ever seen ! highly recomend him ! i believe he has some babies still avalable too !

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I don't know if he has easterns available - but I think he still has Texas indigo babies.

They are about the same price and just as cool.

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Some people are still selling the last of the 2011 babies on kingsnake. A baby blacktail male won't set you back that much money.

I'm planning on breeding the "unicolors" and black tails this year, but babies won't be ready until summer if the breeding schedule works out the same as in past years. My uni male is off feed which is an indicator that he should be ready for his girlfriend soon. My male black tails aren't showing signs of being ready yet.

If you've never owned a cribo before, start with a baby. An adult black tail is an intimidating animal - quick moving, strong and with an aggressive feeding response. It's much easier to start with a juvenile and grow into the snake.

They key to these animals is to keep the ambient in the mid to low 70s and to make sure they stay well hydrated. You can't keep them like a ball python or a boa - they do not handle temps over the high 70s low 80s well at all.

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Thanks for the helpful info! I am mostly interested in an older baby or juvenile. I like the idea of raising it from a youngster. I knew they prefered a bit cooler temps. Do you use a "hotspot" for them at all or do you just keep the ambient temps in the low/mid 70's?

I truly do want one (despite the icky poop... lol!) but it won't happen til spring/summer at the soonest. I don't mind waiting. Do you have a wait list for your babies next year? An email list or something I can get on to keep up to date? PM me if you'd prefer! ;)

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Thanks for the helpful info! I am mostly interested in an older baby or juvenile. I like the idea of raising it from a youngster. I knew they prefered a bit cooler temps. Do you use a "hotspot" for them at all or do you just keep the ambient temps in the low/mid 70's?

I truly do want one (despite the icky poop... lol!) but it won't happen til spring at the soonest. Do you have a wait list for your babies next year? An email list or something I can get on to keep up to date? PM me if you'd prefer! ;)

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The temp of my herp room runs in the mid 70s in the summer and the mid 60s in the winter.

Currently, I give them a hotspot that hovers around 88 degrees. It's belly heat in the form of 11" flexwatt. I currently keep all my drys in FB racks - the 66"x30" giant drawers. Old school with the 100% ventilation tops.

I've used cages in the past, but have found no issue with the giant racks. They key is to give them several hides, logs, and even length of corrugated pipe to explore.

They will use the heat when digesting meals - sometimes. In the past I have gone years without giving them supplemental heat.

I don't have a wait list. If they lock up and the females lay, I'll shoot you a PM. I'm pretty relaxed about these things............

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

The temp of my herp room runs in the mid 70s in the summer and the mid 60s in the winter.

Currently, I give them a hotspot that hovers around 88 degrees. It's belly heat in the form of 11" flexwatt. I currently keep all my drys in FB racks - the 66"x30" giant drawers. Old school with the 100% ventilation tops.

I've used cages in the past, but have found no issue with the giant racks. They key is to give them several hides, logs, and even length of corrugated pipe to explore.

They will use the heat when digesting meals - sometimes. In the past I have gone years without giving them supplemental heat.

I don't have a wait list. If they lock up and the females lay, I'll shoot you a PM. I'm pretty relaxed about these things............

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Cool! Please do send me a pm if/when you have eggs! Many thanks! :gj:

Wow, s/he sure got you good! (I'm ASSuming it's you in the picture) Is it bad that that makes me want one even more? :D

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I'd also be interested in any recommendations on where to get one. I'm mostly interested in the black tails. I like the indigos, but after handling a cribo, that's what I want. Any suggestions Skip (or anyone else)???

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a friend of mine is a black tail breeder (among many other interesting species). His name is Lloyd J. Heilbrunn and is animals are top notch.

I love Drys!! I am hoping to pick a pair of Black tails up soon. Would love to have a red throat eastern Indigo but alas they are illegal in FL.

Thanks for sharing. Gorgeous snakes, and the last two made me laugh. :D