is there such morph?

all black ball with red eyes?

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

all black ball with red eyes?

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Not that I'm aware of and if I'm not mistaken I don't think it can exist. The only Ball Pythons that I'm aware of that have red eyes are albinos and the red is caused from the lack of melanin. Melanin is the pigment responsible for blacks and browns, so I'm not sure how you can breed a snake with no melanin in its eyes but with melanin in its skin. :confused:

The red eyes with some melanin in the skin can be done.

http://newenglandreptile.com/nerd/in...lt-albino.html

It's combining red eyes with a solid black body that is difficult.

i imagine it could be done through xanthic genes.. maybe a super black pastel x caramel albino or albino?

man those would be some crazy odds lol

I don't see it being possible with any of the mutations we currently know about.

Anything is possible in the world of photoshop... I just made one right now! ;)

I doubt it could exist in the real world really, at least not with ball pythons. Maybe if there is a snake with naturally red eyes, like how iguanas have those red eyes.

Maybe someday. But what I wanna see is a blue ball. Something like the color of the people in avatar. That would be sweet

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Originally Posted by mpkeelee

Maybe someday. But what I wanna see is a blue ball. Something like the color of the people in avatar. That would be sweet

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Yeah, for a while I have thought about how amazing it would be to have some bright blue or green ball pythons. :)

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

i imagine it could be done through xanthic genes.. maybe a super black pastel x caramel albino or albino?

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An Albino Super Black Pastel exists and it's white.......

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Originally Posted by meowmeowkazoo

Yeah, for a while I have thought about how amazing it would be to have some bright blue or green ball pythons. :)

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Imagine a ball with the colors of a Green Tree Python. that would be sick.

Haha, my boyfriend has the same dream of a bright green ball python. I just don't know if it's in their genes though! We saw a super incredible green ghost at the expo though, as well as a really green tinted mojave, so he's determined to one day try to line breed for more green pigment. If it does work it could be pretty cool, but would be more forest green.

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

i imagine it could be done through xanthic genes.. maybe a super black pastel x caramel albino or albino?

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Thats a big negatory, super black pastel albinos are solid white.... axanthic and albino make snow.... doesn't matter what you do to darken the snake to get the red eyes requires some form of albinism and that will eliminate the darker coloring. novel Idea but with the genetics we currently have thats all I think it will be an idea

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Originally Posted by jjmitchell

Thats a big negatory, super black pastel albinos are solid white.... axanthic and albino make snow.... doesn't matter what you do to darken the snake to get the red eyes requires some form of albinism and that will eliminate the darker coloring. novel Idea but with the genetics we currently have thats all I think it will be an idea

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The key phrase above is that with the current genetics we are aware of, we cannot at the moment make that animal. However, there are differences in skin cells and eye cells. This is apparent in the case of Leucistics. The pigment exists, but the leucophores (cells in the skin that hold pigment) do not, and hence the blue or black eyes. As Lawrence stated above, red eyes typically come from a lack of melanin. However, with my statement above about differing cells in the eyes and skin, I think that one day it may be possible to manipulate eye color and skin color seperately. But, not yet. Many things yet to be done or figigured out with Ball pythons and snakes/reptiles/amphibians in general.