My setup. (PICS NOW)

This is my ball pythons setup, sorry not trying to double post, just keep it easier to see. Is everything right? 82 On the cool side 92 on the hot side, 50 % humidity, 1 moist hide on the cool side and another hide on the warm side, a stick, and a big bowl he can drink or soak in, along with a humidity emitter. PICS:

http://i.imgur.com/6ilZX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iTSvV.jpg His moist hide and bowl and humid emitter(what I call it lol)..

http://i.imgur.com/GFnOj.jpg His stick.

http://i.imgur.com/cw4BB.jpg His warm hide.

soaking isnt needed, if it happens then humidity is too low. just sayin.

The probe shouldn't be in the tank.

Well I probably need that size bowl anyways... is it bad if he does'nt have TONS of room? Don't they like lots of places too hide? and is the humidity emitter a bad idea? I'm at 50 percent right now I don't know if thats enough.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

The probe shouldn't be in the tank.

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How else do I take the temperature then.. The stupid suction cup doesn't work

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Originally Posted by samy109

How else do I take the temperature then.. The stupid suction cup doesn't work

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Tape it to the under tank heater under tank. (on outside)

i have my probes on the inside of my tank. I just tape them to the bottom of the tank and hide the cords with some plants.

gives me temps under the substrate under both of my hides. I also have a ambient temp sensor in the middle of the cage. I get 78-81 on the cool side and 98 under the substrate (92 on top)

anyway.. having the probes in the tank gives me an good idea of what is going on in the tank.

Guys is 40 percent humidity bad? I have 3/4ths of the top covered with plastic, I have the water bowl, humid emitter, and a moist hide, and it's only at 40 PERCENT! Temps are fine... but is this okay I have no idea what to do to increase it to 55 ish :( What will I ever do when she shed... 75%... How. My moist hide maybe which is nice and moist at all times? I don't know.

you have a tall tank and aspen bedding nether are good for holding humidity.

these are some suggestions you could make to hopefully help IMO
you can add moss to the substrate, change to coconut husk or cypress mulch, get a smaller (shorter) tank.
Adding plants could help hold in the humidity as well.
A thick towel on the top of the tank dose the trick for me

It would be best to keep the humidity 55-75% all the time.

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Originally Posted by samy109

Guys is 40 percent humidity bad? I have 3/4ths of the top covered with plastic, I have the water bowl, humid emitter, and a moist hide, and it's only at 40 PERCENT! Temps are fine... but is this okay I have no idea what to do to increase it to 55 ish :( What will I ever do when she shed... 75%... How. My moist hide maybe which is nice and moist at all times? I don't know.

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i have a 55 i use a damp towel on the cover with a half inch crack for a vent best thing i could find

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Originally Posted by Tree

i have my probes on the inside of my tank. I just tape them to the bottom of the tank and hide the cords with some plants..

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You should NEVER do this. Tape on the inside of the tank is an absolute no-no. Please look at the number one sticky over all care sheets.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...48#post1412648

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

You should NEVER do this. Tape on the inside of the tank is an absolute no-no. Please look at the number one sticky over all care sheets.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...48#post1412648

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IMO scotch tape is fine, avoid packing tape. Probe outside the tank will not give an accurate temp reading. The probe should be place on top of the UTH, then have the bedding cover it. I would just get rid of the tank and get tubs! so much easier to clean and keeps humidity in. High humidity is ok, just as long as the enclosure is not wet.

It kinda looks like you were running in place when you took those...JK :D


Also blue painters tape is ok I think. that's what I use for my hygrometer probes.

There should NOT be tape of any kind inside of a snake's enclosure. You are just asking for problems! Try using hot glue instead.

Yea, i hot-glued everything in there too, might post pics later






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Set up looks ok, im not a fan of the tanks compared to tubs due mainly to the humidity factor. You can find lots of info on this site on how to treat the lid to increase humidity.

Are you guys bickering about the location of the THERMOMETER probe or the THERMOSTAT probe? It seems to me like yas don't even know which you are arguing about.

Thermostat probe should be outside the enclosure on the heat pad while the thermometer probe should be inside so you can determine the temps.

Snake enclosure thermometer probe outside the tank doesn't make much sense does it?

the disadvantage of putting the thermostat probe directly ontop of the UTH, is that it is reading the UTH temp, not the temperature after is is 'mitigated' by the glass, and not to mention, the bedding/substrate will even take a few degrees out of it.

just my :2cent:

Okay I just put him in a 10 gallon and covered 90 percent of the top along with a small water bowl and 2 hides.. 1 humid. and i'm at 50 percent humidity. Now im wondering if I add a humidifier to my room... A good old timey one... will it help at all? its running right now releasing steam.

Just a quick question then...so is it okay to hot glue the thermostate probe to the inside of the tank? Would you just glue it to the bottom? Or glue the whole cord too? I currently have mine in the tank, under newspaper with a hide in one corner of the tank and a rock in the other corner to kind of hold everything in place. I am constantly worrying about him moving the probe out of place. It stays suctioned to the bottom well. I've only once had it come up and that was directly after cleaning.

just use a spray bottle and spray it down in the morning and at night and dont worry about it otherwise... honestly man you think the wild is perfect? you may be over thinking things a bit

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Originally Posted by ShaleneRafuse

Just a quick question then...so is it okay to hot glue the thermostate probe to the inside of the tank? Would you just glue it to the bottom? Or glue the whole cord too? I currently have mine in the tank, under newspaper with a hide in one corner of the tank and a rock in the other corner to kind of hold everything in place. I am constantly worrying about him moving the probe out of place. It stays suctioned to the bottom well. I've only once had it come up and that was directly after cleaning.

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I glued the probe and the whole cord too, didn't want to give the snake a chance to get tangled with the cord (not likely to happen, but I would like to play safe)
Once I have to change the tank, I'll prolly be looking into better thermostats, so it kinda works out for me

Did you cover the whole probe in glue? It won't read temps right if you did. Hopefully just the cord and the base of the probe are glued? The tip of the probe is where the sensor is so if that's covered you may have to pull it up and uncover it.


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well, I did put glue all over the probe, BUT, there is some part of the probe (like 1/3) making contact with the glass... but, since I am currently modifying the tank, I will take all the glue off the probe, just to see if the readings keep the same.

Thanks, I didn't think of that :oops:

What happens if your snake pees or takes a crap or spills his water bowl onto the thermostat probe if you decide to place it inside the enclosure? Also, the snake could move the thermostat probe if it is not secure (DO NOT USE TAPE). Both could easily result in a cooked snake!

You want to have the thermostat probe outside, underneath the enclosure on the heat mat.

The thermometer probe inside, under the substrate to know what the hottest point in the enclosure is.

Modify your thermostat temp so that the hottest point inside doesn't get above what you want your hot side to be.

Some keepers have to set their thermostat to 100+ degrees to achieve the desired hot spot temperature inside under the substrate.

If you glue the probe only glue the back half of the probe. The 1/2 that connects to the cord. Leave the front 1/2 unglued so it can read temps right. If you do do it in the enclosure it needs to be in a spot the snake cannot lay on it, or you need to make sure the snake cannot spill the bowl. Etc. You can do it on the side of the tank on the hot spot side maybe an inch from the bottom, just set it lower. Like I have mine set for 85.f. And on the sub it reads 92.f. You'll have to fiddle with it before gluing it down. You want to make sure your placement is right before you secure it down.


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Though, while the probe was glued, both the t-stat and the thermometer were reading the same temps on the same spot...

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Originally Posted by hig

Snake enclosure thermometer probe outside the tank doesn't make much sense does it?

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Yes, it does.

You tape it directly to the under tank heater. If you know the exact temperature of your UTH, you can easily adjust every thing accordingly.

Neither the thermostat or thermometer probes should be inside the enclosure. Again, there should be no tape inside the enclosure OF ANY KIND. This includes scotch tape, painters tape, and any other type of tape you can think of.

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

just use a spray bottle and spray it down in the morning and at night and dont worry about it otherwise... honestly man you think the wild is perfect? you may be over thinking things a bit

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tanks or tubs... doesn't matter. If it is set up correctly you should never have to mist anything.

For your humidity u can take a piece of plexiglass cut it so it fits inside the lip of the tank. Then cut about three in off. throw a few hinges at the bottom where the two pieces meet. And a few cabinet locks on at the top drill some air holes and glue the little piece on and pow u have a secure lid. Then turn it on it's side and ur humidity prob is gone. It cost me twenty dollars and about an hour to do mine. And it looks better than a screen lid.

evrything looks ok is the probe for a thermomiter or for a thermastat i run my thermostat probe on my heat tape or pad whatever you use and i personaly check the temps with a temprature gun...