Update list....and projected first year breeding

So I did a little tweaking with my to get next summer list and have aquired the Following.

0.2 pastel
0.2 pinstripe
0.2 lesser
0.1 butter
0.1 bee
0.1 fire
0.1 mojave
0.1 cinnamon
0.1 black pastel
1.0 firefly
1.0 fire pin
1.0 fire spider
1.0 pewter
1.0 black pewter
2.0 pastel lesser
1.0 pastel butter

Once I get female supers of each codom I will be selling off the female codoms.

I will be posting up the projected breeding for my first year in a little bit.....mawl over my list and tell me what you think.

Thanks.
Kevin

theres so many here. but the ones that stand out for me would be to make the super cinny, pewter pin, or maybe a black pewter pin. that one would be sweet. is there such a thing as a super cinny pin? i wouldnt think so as they are almost all black but would be interesting. great pickups by the way.:gj:

Hmm, I think you should send me your fire stuff. Nice pick ups!

The female selection looks great, but your males are confusing me. Why so many fire combo males to start out with? Also, why do you have 3 Pastel Lesser/Butter males and 2 Pewter males? I understand the Butter/Lesser and Cinnamon/Black Pastel thing, but, why? Just curious.

Also I would suggest adding some visual Recessive females if your budget allows.

Let us know how it goes! :)

Ha sorry about the miscomunication I haven't got them yet....sadly. :( this is what I plan to have next summer.....I'm really aiming for some emperor pins, dragonflys, nuclear stuff, and lots of bels. I will be getting these sometime down the road too

1.1 vpi axanthic
1.1 high contrast binos
1.1 pied

Going to do some snow work. ;)

Here is the pairing for year one.

Pair one:
Black pewter x black pastel
Hopes: super blacks

Pair two:
Fire pin x fire
Hopes: super fire (black eyes), super fire pins

Pair three:
Pewter x cinnamon
Hopes: super cinny, silver bullet

Pair four:
Firefly x pastel
Hopes: super pastel, firefly

Pair five:
Pastel lesser x mojave
Hopes: Bel, pastav

Pair six:
Pastel lesser x lesser
Hopes: Bel, pastel lesser

Pair seven:
Pastel lesser x butter
Hopes: Bel, pastel butter/lesser

Pair eight: (most excited about this one :) )
Fire pin x bee
Hopes: firefly spinner, spinner fly, lemon blast, spinner, spinner blast

Pair nine:
Pastel lesser x pin
Hopes: emperor pin, pastel pin, lesser pin

Pair ten:
Fire pin x pastel
Hopes: dragonfly, firefly, fire pin

And lastly

Pair eleven:
Fire spider x lesser
Hopes: nuclear spider, lesser spider, fire spider, fire lesser


I will be pairing more males with different females but that's what it looks like for now!

I would thin down the males and upgrade to a few triple males with the extra money and maybe fit in some recessive females. You can breed a male to at least 4 females. Super male heavy.

Regards,

B

as soon as i get them paid off im getting a male pewter and female cinny and hoping for the super cinny or silver bullet. will be a few years before i get those though :(. nevr heard of a nuclear spider before but will be looking that up ASAP :D

Its a creation of mike wilbanks. There is a nuclear pin and nuclear spinner as well...all which I hope to achieve.

they are awesome looking snakes. i wonder if the nuclear part works on any other dom or co-dom morphs. looks like it will be a fun project for anyone who gets involved. maybe i need to look into some butters and fires :rolleyes:

Lesser/butter, fire, enchi, and spider/pin morphs are the shiznit! I'm so hyped to get going. I have the extra females and males incase I want to make something different with a different male. The extra males are to ensure I breed a female. I will be doing a lot with lesser/butter, fire, and pastel....as you can see.

And yes nuclear is anything showing the firexlesserx???. I would love to see firexlesserxmojave, firexlesserxbee, etc.

or fire x butter ...

Also, you don't need 2 pastel lesser males and you dont need a pastel butter male. It's pretty much the same thing, and that will take away 2 males you really don't need.

fire x lesser x mojave would be a bel with a fire pattern only seen under black light ...

fire x lesser x pastel x spider would be neat though. (nuclear bee)

Yeah but most would know that lesser and butter go hand in hand. I really would like to add a sugar male to the mix but I don't know if I want to spend an upwards of $1,500 for one snake. Its kinda looking like this.

0.2 pin
0.2 pastel
0.1 cinny
0.1 bee
0.1 mojave
0.2 lesser
0.1 fire
0.1 high contrast bino
0.1 black pastel
1.0 firefly
1.0 firing pin
1.0 fire spider
1.0 pewter
1.0 black pewter
1.0 lesser pastel/butter
1.0 axanthic


I feel like I'm missing something....I have added a couple recessives for good measure.

well you were planning on buying one of each , so that's why I said something ...

ps get female recessives ... once you get hets, you wont want to have to raise up females to go with them

Also I think I like this too.

1.0 clown
1.1 orange ghost
And heck add 0.1 axanthic too.....I mean I won't be getting all like 20+ snakes at once...

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Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch

well you were planning on buying one of each , so that's why I said something ...

ps get female recessives ... once you get hets, you wont want to have to raise up females to go with them

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True....so okay.

0.2 pin
0.2 pastel
0.2 lesser
0.1 cinnamon
0.1 mojave
0.1 black pastel
0.1 bee
0.1 fire
0.1 axanthic
0.1 high contrast bino
0.1 clown
1.1 orange ghost
1.0 firefly
1.0 firing pin
1.0 fire spider
1.0 pewter
1.0 black pewter


Phew!

thats better, nice chunk of females

Nice chunk of money lol

Also 1,500 isn't to far off the price of some of those on your list.

True....add

1.0 sugar. :p lol

Yeah... Are u planning on getting all those breeding size at purchase date? If so that's like... $20,000 in females alone lol

Hahahha.....heck no! I'm a poor college boy. They will be babies. I'm using the money I've been saving and my tax return which should be about $1,500 so I should have about $3,600 to spend next on my females and a male or two to start.

Its probbly going to be around $10-12,000 when all said and done....maybe more

Not to rip on you or anything, but do you really see any of this happening or is this gonna be another RTC keeping thing.

........as I said on mfk I got out of fish. I much prefer reptiles...and yes I do see this happening as its going to be part of my income...
Thanks.

im in college too man. i was into fish then got into reptiles (or back onto reptiles i should say) this will be my first year breeding. i still enjoy my saltwater fish but reptiles are definitely my new focus as i can see a return now not just a tank to sink money into haha

How is milton doing by the way ....

Pepper's new temp tank came in today for him and the stingrays!

The 314 came!? And milton is doing great. Went on a fasting spell but now he is eating and about 10". Finally found that he loves mussles!

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That's quite the project you're planning! You keeping Milton? If so thats awesome :) I'm waiting till I have an apt or house to myself before getting another rtc, still have the tiger shovelnoses though.

I want to get a bumblebee at the Hamburg show in Oct, I figure the extra $$ is better than taking a few years to make them myself. Can't wait :D

Good to hear he ia doing great. I feed pepper less now but he's always a hungry boy. And yep it came, I am so excited :) I should have it up in a couple weeks.

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Originally Posted by dragonsong93

That's quite the project you're planning! You keeping Milton? If so thats awesome :) I'm waiting till I have an apt or house to myself before getting another rtc, still have the tiger shovelnoses though.

I want to get a bumblebee at the Hamburg show in Oct, I figure the extra $$ is better than taking a few years to make them myself. Can't wait :D

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bumblebees have come down a lot in price the last few months also so you shouldnt have trouble finding one. im looking to pick one up also in orlando in two weeks

That's sweet jess. Post pics! And yeah bees are lower than most. I have seen them for like $500....not to terrible.

Im going to add

1.0 sugar

To my list.

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why a male?

On pair #4, I'd offer a special toast to the snake gods in hopes of a superfly or two.

You've got a lot to work with there. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch

why a male?

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That way I can breed it to the minagery of females I have....a lot more options that way.

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