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This might present a bit of a problem....
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Uhh That's errmmmm A PROBLEM:O.. Do you Own Snake Hook???
If yes That's a best course of Action here... but be gentle with it...
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
Option 2 is to make the hole a little bigger please let us know how this turns out
Robie
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Another option would be to cut the hole to be the size of a standard outlet box. You should be able to get your hand in a hole that size. Once you get it out that way. Go to lowes and get a retro fit box and a blank wall plate to cover it up with.
Good news is he/she only has 16" to move around so its not like its going to be crawling all over your house.
Or just wait it out. It will come out sooner or later just need to be there with it does.
Good look.
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ive seen someone get their snake out of something that that on youtube by using a f/t rat but it mightnot work if you are standing right their you might need to make a scent trail but feat a f/t rat up with blow dryier and she might be interested in comming out
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Try to lure it out with food or cut the hole bigger and just patch it up after. With cold weather coming I would try to get it out ASAP and worry about repairs later.
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
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Originally Posted by mpkeelee
Try to lure it out with food or cut the hole bigger and just patch it up after. With cold weather coming I would try to get it out ASAP and worry about repairs later.
I'm in Florida, so luckily, am not too concerned about cold weather. However, I imagine that the foundation that he is laying on is just concrete is not warm at all, and I am concerned about that, although ambient temp in the house sits anywhere from 76-80 F.
I unfortunately do not have a snake hook. If he doesn't come out by tonight, and I can get a view of the inside of the hole, we are going to cut into the wall that is the inside of the adjacent closet, given that there are no barriers.
As far as luring with prey, I am not certain this idea will work. He's a very private eater and wont even strike at a rat on tongs. He has to be in his tub, in the dark and I lay the rat inside.
I will definitely keep you all updated :)
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You can make hook using a wire hanger, the snake is between studs, so basically he can't leave that section of the wall (hopefully).
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also, try blow drying a rat in the room, maybe the scent will atrract him.
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
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Originally Posted by llovelace
You can make hook using a wire hanger, the snake is between studs, so basically he can't leave that section of the wall (hopefully).
You're exactly right, he can't leave. He is in an area that is about 3 feet long and 4 inches wide.
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I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here... :P
Hope you get him out soon!
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Sheetrock is easy to work with. Make the hole bigger and go in and get him. Then repair the hole.
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If you plan to cut it tomorrow if he doesnt come out, why not go ahead and cut it now to make sure he comes out? No need waiting an extra day on a "if".
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Originally Posted by Clear
If you plan to cut it tomorrow if he doesnt come out, why not go ahead and cut it now to make sure he comes out? No need waiting an extra day on a "if".
I wasn't able to cut it earlier. I was working and wasn't able to stop working to start cutting holes in the wall, considering that it will be a time consuming process. In any case, I'm off work now and am trying to get him out. Situation unfortunately has only gotten worse.
I was able to get my phone inside to see where his head was...
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After I stuck my arm in and tried to grab him, he made his way into another hole which I didn't know was in the area he was in and now, he is in between the door frame and the wall.
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He looks comfortable and being a BP, food might not be the best way to get him out. I would try to get him out ASAP also because the longer he sits in there, the better the chance you will completely lose him. He could come out in the middle of the night and find another crevis, which in that case, you would destroy that whole wall looking for him and not find him there.
How did he get in the wall? I guess for me, I don't let my snakes ever crawl around on the ground in the house so it is hard for me to see this happening. When I go outside, I go in the middle of the yard where there are no trees, no bushes, and no holes because once their neck gets into or around something, it is over with trying to get them to back out. I have had to cut belt loops because a snake was too thick to go through a belt loop but decided it was going to anyways before I realized it.
My advice is, get him out as soon as you can. I hate that you have to wreck your walls to do this. I know you will probably learn a great deal from this experience. Unfortunately, mistakes have to be made in order to learn.
Good luck with getting your snake out. I hope he is ok.
Star
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
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Originally Posted by weird_science04
He looks comfortable and being a BP, food might not be the best way to get him out. I would try to get him out ASAP also because the longer he sits in there, the better the chance you will completely lose him. He could come out in the middle of the night and find another crevis, which in that case, you would destroy that whole wall looking for him not to find him there.
How did he get in the wall? I guess for me, I don't let me snakes ever crawl around on the ground in the house so it is hard for me to see this happening. When I go outside, I go in the middle of the yard where no trees, no bushes, and no holes because once their neck gets into something, it is over with trying to get them to back out. I have had to cut belt loops because a snake was too thick to go through a belt loop but decided it was going to before I realized it.
My advice is, get him out as soon as you can. I hate that you have to wreck your walls to do this. I know you will probably learn a great deal from this experience. Unfortunately, mistakes have to be made in order to learn.
Good luck with getting your snake out. I hope he is ok.
Star
I also don't let mine crawl on the ground without supervision. He was out of his tub this morning when I woke up. He escaped by pushing the end of his tub out of the rack and squeezed out, even with another tub on top of his. And managed to make it under two doors and into another room. Annnd then into the hole.
I'm just thankful that we looked in the hole while he was in the first part. If he would have crawled into the area in the door frame originally, I would have NEVER found him.
Thanks for the good luck wish.
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Good news just in. He crawled back into the original space where I can see him :) trying to grab him now!
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
I'm hoping you get that little escape artist out of there with the wire hanger hook, and without having to bring out the toolbox to start cutting the wall! BPs can get themselves into such predicaments!
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You might try a roller frame as a snake hook. Personally i'd tear the hole larger with my hands and lift him out.
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Originally Posted by lasweetswan
Good news just in. He crawled back into the original space where I can see him :) trying to grab him now!
It's been about 15 minutes now - do you have him yet?? Best of luck and hope the answer is positive!
Me, I woulda just cut into that first hole and made it bigger as soon as I'd spotted him in there. As Don pointed out, Sheetrock is super easy to use and that plus a popsicle stick and a bit of screening, well, instant wall. Or, as someone else mentioned, you could've cut a bigger box hole and simply covered it with a 4-outlet box or blank box cover. There are ways! But the important thing is that you get him out....
Waiting to hear!
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I feel very comfortable working with sheet rock and would have no problems putting a hole big enough to put my arm through. It is very easy to patch. There are plenty of Youtube videos showing how to fix sheetrock. Go GET HIM!
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Bad news. I tried to grab him through the original hole and he found another hole on the opposite side from the hole that he crawled out of. He was crawling into that hole and i tried to pull him out but the hole was sharp, unfinished metal and i didnt want to hurt him. I figured that hole would be the same as the one on the other side So I drilled into the other closet to try to get to him from that side and found a vertical Shute that he had made his way up. Now he is out of sight and I have no idea where he went. I thought the passage way might lead to the area above the closet so I drilled a hole up there and it's support beams. No flat area that he could be laying on.
I can hear him rustling in the wall but can't pinpoint where it's coming from. Now I'm scared that he's just going to keep going until I'm never able to find him. I'm scared that the drilling may have scared him deeper into the frame work.
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Ok, enough. One 4' x 8' piece of sheetrock isn't that expensive...rip it out and rescue your snake already.
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I'm trying to do my drilling with a cordless dremel. Its the only tool i have. I can tell that he's behind a certain part of of the wall inside the closet. The dremel won't cut enough out of the wall or atleast not what needs to be cut. I trying to take the wall out to find him, it's easy enough to fix, I just don't have the tool to do it. I need help :(
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Originally Posted by mikeandsheleen
Ok, enough. One 4' x 8' piece of sheetrock isn't that expensive...rip it out and rescue your snake already.
That's what I'm trying to do. Thanks.
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I'm sorry...I didn't mean to be rude! It sounded ok when I typed it, but looked rude after I read it.
I hope he/she is ok!
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
I've played that game with other animals, trying to get them while being gentle. More often than not they will take advantage of your hesitation and make a run for it. You have to grab your ball (pun intended?) and get s/her out!
Good luck to you.
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Originally Posted by mikeandsheleen
I'm sorry...I didn't mean to be rude! It sounded ok when I typed it, but looked rude after I read it.
I hope he/she is ok!
Thank you. I'm very frustrated. I've been drilling and reaching my hands into holes since 630 with no rescue. I'm not worried about the damage to the wall and am really trying to figure it out. If I can't get him out tonight, I have recruited help with tearing out the wall tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Rusky
I've played that game with other animals, trying to get them while being gentle. More often than not they will take advantage of your hesitation and make a run for it. You have to grab your ball (pun intended?) and get s/her out!
Good luck to you.
Thank you. I felt the hole that he was going through and it was sharp. It was hard to fight him while pulling him backwards and I didn't want to rip his belly scales or cut him. Now i wish i would have been more forceful. Some missing scales or scrapes would be better than a missing bp.
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Forget the Dremel hon, that sheetrock is not that tough, punch a hole and start ripping it out with your hands. I can dig a hole in it with my fingernail, now is not the time for subtle!
If you can't pull it loose by hand, grab a tire iron, a hammer, big old screwdriver, anything and just go to it!
Who cares about it looking nice, once it's all over, then you can just replace the whole 4X8 sheet if you need to.
I'll be watching this thread to see good news!
Gale
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Originally Posted by angllady2
Forget the Dremel hon, that sheetrock is not that tough, punch a hole and start ripping it out with your hands. I can dig a hole in it with my fingernail, now is not the time for subtle!
If you can't pull it loose by hand, grab a tire iron, a hammer, big old screwdriver, anything and just go to it!
Who cares about it looking nice, once it's all over, then you can just replace the whole 4X8 sheet if you need to.
I'll be watching this thread to see good news!
Gale
Thanks for the help! I resorted to a screwdriver and pushed a bunch if little holes and then used pliers to pull out the wall in between. I don't k ow the difference between Sheetrock and drywall but I definitely could not have punched through this stuff.
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Good job getting him out. Lil fella had an interesting night. I bet u did too. Now for the repair. Good luck. It's not too hard.
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teah repair is not hard. HD sells small pieces of sheetrock/drywall.
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Originally Posted by llovelace
teah repair is not hard. HD sells small pieces of sheetrock/drywall.
Shouldn't be too hard, I'm not concerned about it! Just so happy that I got him out tonight. How he managed to get there, I do not know. He went through atleast four holes within the wall.
He came out with only some very minor scrapes, I'm assuming from screws within the walls. The scrapes dont even penetrate the scale so he should be fine!!!!
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Dude you got lucky, if your house has those metal studs the holes in them aren't deburred at all and are sharp as hell.
Glad you got him out though!
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
That's great news, glad you got him out safe and sound.
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Great news. If you need help learning to repair sheet rock, post in the off topic section and I'm sure you'll get lots of help. Glad you got him out safe. :gj:
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YAY!!!
I am so very glad you got him out, and that I helped in some small way. :D
You probably have the higher grade sheetrock, which is fairly tough, around here everyone uses the bottom of the line stuff and trust me, you can punch a hole in it pretty easily.
But the important thing is, baby is safe and sound and none the worse for wear! And I think we've all learned a very important lesson here, don't turn your back on one of these little buggers for a second. Just like a toddler, you wouldn't believe how much trouble they can get into in a few seconds.
Gale
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WOO HOO!! GREAT RESCUE!!:banana::banana::banana:
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Re: This might present a bit of a problem....
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Originally Posted by devildog_dk
Dude you got lucky, if your house has those metal studs the holes in them aren't deburred at all and are sharp as hell.
Glad you got him out though!
Yes, very lucky. That's exactly what they are. That's why I was so hesitant to just play tug with him when he was halfway through him. He had to have gone through atleast 2 or 3 of them to get to the final spot that I cut him out of.
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Glad to see all is well and hope the repair goes easily :gj:
Robie
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Glad to hear it all worked out! Good for you honey!!! :gj::gj::gj:
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Congrats!!! I know you are relieved now to have that snake out and safe. I wasn't trying to sound harsh when I mentioned that I don't let my snakes crawl around. Glad you got him out with minor scratches.
Star
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Originally Posted by weird_science04
Congrats!!! I know you are relieved now to have that snake out and safe. I wasn't trying to sound harsh when I mentioned that I don't let my snakes crawl around. Glad you got him out with minor scratches.
Star
Thanks! I didn't assume you were being harsh :) I do let mine crawl but supervised. He managed to get out in the middle of the night and was gone when I woke up. So happy he's safe now though!! :D
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