What to start with?

Looking to get started in BP's. If you were going to purchase two snakes, what two morphs would you start with? The two years it takes for the female to get to maturity gives my son and I the chance to see if we want to breed them. But, I don't want to get a couple years in and think "crud I should have got a .... instead". Price is also a factor. We want to be reasonable about what we pay for pet.

I'd get a Bumblebee and a pinstipe.

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Originally Posted by tahutch72

Looking to get started in BP's. If you were going to purchase two snakes, what two morphs would you start with? The two years it takes for the female to get to maturity gives my son and I the chance to see if we want to breed them. But, I don't want to get a couple years in and think "crud I should have got a .... instead". Price is also a factor. We want to be reasonable about what we pay for pet.

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In this case, I would recommend that you get what you LOVE and not what random Internet folks suggest is their own favorite.

I know that may sound a bit trite, but it's so very true. I totally understand wanting to have folks offer up suggestions to give you ideas on what to think about... but please keep in mind that you'll get a totally different answer from everyone. And all sorts of price ranges as well. Everyone has a different idea about what might be "reasonable" to spend.

If you LOVE a bumblebee...and if that is a bit too pricy to start with...then maybe get a nice pastel and a spider.

That's just a for-instance, though. It's impossible to even start making suggestions without having a clue about what you like, what your goals might be, and what your budget is.

I started with a pastel and a spider:gj:

I agree you should go with what is as close to your dream snake as you can get.

Personally I would get a bee morph of some sort either a bumble or a cinny bee

they give you two separate genes in one snake that way and personally some of the bee color options out there are some of the coolest looking morphs out there.

and then a pin or a pin+ something else. that way I could work on spinners and whatever color options the second genes offered me.

No need to buy a pair now... the female will take way longer to breed anyway. Spend all the money you would have spent on two snakes buying just one double gene female. Then in a year or two if you decide you want to try breeding, buy a male to go with her. :D

Get whatever one you like, if it were me, a pewter or a firefly!

here goto worldofballpythons.net and go from there they have every kind of morph on there use the morph list and click on the names of them and it will show picture and if you really want something to do play with the genetic wizard 3.0 and see what happens when you put 1 morph to another morph have fun :D

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Originally Posted by mdfreak2

here goto worldofballpythons.net and go from there they have every kind of morph on there use the morph list and click on the names of them and it will show picture and if you really want something to do play with the genetic wizard 3.0 and see what happens when you put 1 morph to another morph have fun :D

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We have spent many hours at that website! It can be a bit overwhelming....allllllll the combinations! That is actually why I was asking the question. We have been raising different reptiles and amphibians for a few years but want to get focused on one and possibly breed. What I gathered from that website was to get a female of some sort first, possibly a second down the road a bit, and a male a year from now.

A couple people have mentioned Bumble bee's. That IS one of the snakes we want. We were thinking about waiting to get a male Bumble Bee. That way he would pass on multiple genes to go along with whatever genes the female would pass on. We are looking for variety... we like surprises!:banana:

Maybe somthing that's good looking and can be useful like a super pastel, ivory, or a lucy somthing that would guarantee a morph baby even if bred to a normal

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Enchi , fire or yellow belly will go great almost any male later .

I recommend buying 1 or two females to let mature into breeding size and see if they're a pet you want to breed. That way in 2 years, if your tastes have changed, you are still flexible in what male you get. Obviously the morphs are up to you, I recommend browsing the morph list on worldofballpythons.com - my favorite thing to do is search a base morph I like and see what they can be turned into. Just to help get your searches rolling, here are some mid priced dom/co-dom single genes you might be interested in:

Pastel
Spider
Pinstripe
Lesser (or Butter, very similar)
Mojave
Cinnamon (or black pastel, similar genes but slightly diff colours)
Enchi
Fire

Some common 2-gene animals you might be interested in producing (or buying)

Bumblebee
Blue Eyed Leucistic (or Black eyed, which is a super fire)
Super Pastel
Spinner
Lesser bee
Pastave
The list goes on :)

Albino and Ghost are also interesting recessive projects that are not too expensive compared to other recessives. Do some window shopping with your son and decide what's coolest!