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Ball Pythons Het Question

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  • 08-27-2011, 09:00 PM
    crepers86
    Ball Pythons Het Question
    I have heard before from some people that a Normal Ball Python that is het for something well sometimes show het markings can someone explain to me het markings. I mean I do know there is no way from to know for a fact that a normal maybe het unless I breed it, and I don't plan on breeding a rescued animal. However If the statement I am asking is true about a normal being het has markings or can have some sort of markings is true I am wondering if it is posible that this normal may be het for spider, you can see the markings towards its tail that kinda like those on a Spider Ball

    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...827_193112.jpg
  • 08-27-2011, 09:05 PM
    crepers86
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
  • 08-27-2011, 09:05 PM
    brikwall96
    I don't think there is a het for spider... Hets are in albinos and clowns and pieds that type
  • 08-27-2011, 09:10 PM
    Emilio
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    Spiders are a dominant mutation not recessive below is a link to our Beginners morphology section check it out read up.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics
  • 08-27-2011, 09:11 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    When people refer to a "het" they are usually talking about a recessive morph. Spider is a visual het, so its either spider or not. your snake is just a normal.

    Again when people are talking het markers, they are referring to recessive morphs. There is no such thing as "het markers" no matter what people like to think and pretend. Sure some hets have influence, but as far as definite markers, they do not exist or other wise they would not fit the definition of recessive.
  • 08-27-2011, 10:14 PM
    crepers86
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    I am learning about genetics and studying as much as I can on bp morphs befor I get into breeding and decide what I want to breed
  • 08-27-2011, 10:18 PM
    crepers86
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    Another question would I get anything from breeding a normel to a spider or would it just be spiders and normal babies
  • 08-27-2011, 10:44 PM
    AK907
    Just spiders and normals.
  • 08-27-2011, 10:45 PM
    SilverDemon
    From breeding a spider to a normal, you would get approximately 50% spiders and 50% normals. Of course, we all know that the Odds Gods don't exactly like to keep things strictly even :P
  • 08-28-2011, 10:28 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    I think the piebald mutation is half way between recessive and co dominant (guess they didn’t read that they had to pick one or the other). Sure the belly marks aren't 100% but they can be useful. I produced 4 pieds this year from 25% chance het girls selected based on the markers followed through generations.

    http://snakemorphs.com/images/201107...11_pied_01.jpg
  • 08-28-2011, 11:27 AM
    wax32
    Nice one Randy. :D

    Just like technically co-dom type animals are "visual" hets, I think some recessive hets can be visual. It's just a lot harder to pick them out. For instance lots, but not all, het hypo balls are brighter than normal and the belly marks on most het pieds. I've seen het G-Stripe animals that for sure look different than their non-het relations.

    All that said, buying hets needs to include a high level of trust in the breeders honesty and/or skills. :D
  • 08-28-2011, 03:09 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    Yes, hypo is another example. I produced this hypo cinnamon from a pair of 50% chance het hypos (the male was also cinnamon) picked based on being brighter than their siblings.

    http://snakemorphs.com/images/201107...o_cinnamon.jpg

    I'd love to hear more about what to look for in het stripes. I have an albino from a possible double het albino striped to a possible het albino (just went with luck on that pick) that I'm hoping has a het stripe pattern.
  • 08-30-2011, 06:35 AM
    Sugarbone
    The genes in your snake that it got from its parentsare the only genes it can pass on, ie normal x spider will only produce normals and spiders. spider x pastel will produce spiders, pastels, and spider pastels (and some normals), basically your babies could inherit any combination of the genes from each parent. They are only passed on 100% if the parent is homozygous for that trait.
  • 09-04-2011, 09:53 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Ball Pythons Het Question
    So does this albino look promising for het genetic stripe?

    http://snakemorphs.com/images/201109..._clutch8f1.jpg
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