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  • 08-22-2011, 11:26 PM
    Lancerlot109@aol.com
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    so my ball python is having his first shed for me.

    half of his body shed no problem but the other half was still there.

    so i soaked him in warm water for a couple mins and began to let him run through a damp towel. his shed began to peel off no problem.

    but then after the 3rd-4th time he was slithering through the towel he pooped.

    it sounded really wet and as if he was farting. when i unfolded the towel his poop was really really wet and looked very dark to me..

    i should have taken a picture but wasnt thinking at the time and already threw away the towel.

    is this dark wet poop normal after soaking? and has this happened to anyone else?

    any input is appreciated.. i am a little worried :confused:

    also i had just recently switched him to frozen thawed about two weeks ago. he had two thawed out pinky rats within those two weeks and this was the first large visible poop he had taken. could his poop be like how i described because of the switch from live to frozen?
  • 08-22-2011, 11:40 PM
    llovelace
    Was to poo solid or complete liquid?
  • 08-22-2011, 11:43 PM
    Lancerlot109@aol.com
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by llovelace View Post
    Was to poo solid or complete liquid?

    it was somewhat solid but mainly liquid.
  • 08-23-2011, 12:15 AM
    kitedemon
    this is a bit complicated to speak about but lets try. The poo did it look like a cats normal poo? With some liquid and stuff at the end or was it a whole mass of loose goo? Often they will pee and poo one followed by the other and you get liquid with solid urnates (a really well hydrated snake will have lots of liquid and some white urnate dehydrated you get more white less liquid) Liquid and poo isn't cause for concern but runny poo is different.
  • 08-23-2011, 12:24 AM
    Lancerlot109@aol.com
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    this is a bit complicated to speak about but lets try. The poo did it look like a cats normal poo? With some liquid and stuff at the end or was it a whole mass of loose goo? Often they will pee and poo one followed by the other and you get liquid with solid urnates (a really well hydrated snake will have lots of liquid and some white urnate dehydrated you get more white less liquid) Liquid and poo isn't cause for concern but runny poo is different.

    hmm. im actually not sure. it was almost like diarrhea but a little more solid.

    im just gonna keep an eye on him and if it comes out somewhat wet again ill look for a herp vet.

    do you think it could have been the change from live pinkies to frzen thawed?
  • 08-23-2011, 12:46 AM
    Lancerlot109@aol.com
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i hope this explains it better.

    it was wet but not so wet to where it was dripping and getting everywhere.

    and i dont really remember. but there was a faint smell. not a horrible smell
  • 08-23-2011, 01:17 AM
    Shadera
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You relaxed the little fella. Who doesn't fart in the tub? :rofl:

    If you've been giving pinkies, it's highly possible that's giving him looser stools. No hair to help hold things together. Or it could be the change, too. I wouldn't worry about it unless it becomes chronic and loose.
  • 08-23-2011, 01:29 AM
    EverEvolvingExotics
    "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    There was too many of these to not read this thread. The poop sounds fine.
  • 08-23-2011, 06:41 AM
    kitedemon
    that sound ok to me too keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get worse. You might get a fecal sample bottle to have on hand in case the next one is loose you can get it to a lab and check for parasites (common cause of loose stool)
  • 08-23-2011, 07:03 AM
    mommanessy247
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    while poo is the topic here...
    is it ok for a snake to go months between poos? my girl give me a urate every other week, maybe every couple weeks but she hasnt left me any poo for some time, i forgot exactly how long but i know it was about 2 sheds ago & 2 sheds ago was in march...
    i dont wanna stress her with a soaking if i dont have to & she's been eating every 10 days or so since that march shed with 1 missed feeding due to an aggressive rat. downsized from smalls to weaned for a bit & have, as of 3 feedings ago, gotten back up to smalls.
    so the point is
    5 months since last poo + 15 meals since then = still no poo????:weirdface:
    should i soak her? :confused:

    sorry for the hijack
  • 08-23-2011, 05:04 PM
    Lancerlot109@aol.com
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mommanessy247 View Post
    while poo is the topic here...
    is it ok for a snake to go months between poos? my girl give me a urate every other week, maybe every couple weeks but she hasnt left me any poo for some time, i forgot exactly how long but i know it was about 2 sheds ago & 2 sheds ago was in march...
    i dont wanna stress her with a soaking if i dont have to & she's been eating every 10 days or so since that march shed with 1 missed feeding due to an aggressive rat. downsized from smalls to weaned for a bit & have, as of 3 feedings ago, gotten back up to smalls.
    so the point is
    5 months since last poo + 15 meals since then = still no poo????:weirdface:
    should i soak her? :confused:

    sorry for the hijack

    its all good! this is why i love this website
  • 08-23-2011, 05:05 PM
    Lancerlot109@aol.com
    Re: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadera View Post
    You relaxed the little fella. Who doesn't fart in the tub? :rofl:

    If you've been giving pinkies, it's highly possible that's giving him looser stools. No hair to help hold things together. Or it could be the change, too. I wouldn't worry about it unless it becomes chronic and loose.

    thanks! that makes a lot of sense actually. i never considered the hair of a rat making the the poop solid.
  • 08-23-2011, 05:23 PM
    kitedemon
    mommanessy247 All I can do it tell you about my experience one of the rescues I have managed to eat a huge pile of cyprus chips once and then had failed to poop for at least 6 months. She started to feel decidedly round not flat along the keel scales but rounded and the lower 1/3 was like a balloon airy and if you palpitated her it made belly grumblings.

    The vet told us to soak her and she also gave oral Meds that I have forgotten the name of. (after the xrays) The vet also said that she needed to have a period of active time as well as the 20 min soak twice a day. All of the above cleared up the issue.

    What I have learned since. Knowing what I currently do I might try a couple of things first before a vet visit. feed smaller which you have done. This is a bit unpleasant and requires F/T I don't know if you do or not. I used a curved syringe and injected clear water into the rat (by mouth ) and added 2ml/kg of snake. This is nice a gentle it is just water.

    Dr. J. Rossi suggests a rat lax that is to inject into a dead rat 1mL/kg of body weight human grade mineral oil and feeding this.

    ref. What's wrong with my snake? Rossi and Rossi

    I might try water one week with soaking and then after a week try the oil. When you get poop I would highly suggest having a fecal done as internal parasites can cause constipation especially if there is no other reason.

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