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  • 08-21-2011, 04:41 PM
    babyknees
    New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    So at the last expo I saw a few little versicolor spiderlings for sale and I took the jump! I'm not going to lie; spiders make me a little nervous but I figured that having one might be a good way to get over that fear. I have a ton of questions and have been doing tons of Googleing. I joined Arachnoboards to read stuff on there. The little guy came in a vial but everything I've been reading says that those vials aren't good for versicolors because they get too humid. I got worried and moved him to a tall plastic cup with a lid but I cut the center of the lid out and replaced it with some fine plastic mesh. He's got some Eco Earth substrate and a few pieces of wood to climb on. I'm thinking of adding some silk plants and more twigs to make it feel more secure. Would that make it more secure? I'm not even clear on if they even need to feel secure. I've been misting every couple of days and feeding it little crickets that are about the size of its body every couple of days. Is this okay? Does he need more food, less food? Is that an okay size? I have a picture that I'll post at the end of him with his cricket. I've been removing uneaten body parts from the enclosure. Does my set up sound okay? What should I add, if anything? I've been keeping it mid 70s to low 80s which is what my research has indicated is correct. So in your experience is that the right temp range? I'm not heating it or anything just keeping it close to my snake enclosures and checking the temp with a temp gun. It spends all the time right up by the lid. Is that okay or is that an indicator that something is wrong in the setup? I keep saying "it" is there any way to tell as a little T what gender it is? Any suggestions or anything else I need to know? I've been reading that these guys are hard to raise up from spiderlings so anything that can help me get it into adulthood would be great. Okay, as promised...pictures!

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._2658383_n.jpg
    This shows the size crickets I'm feeding him and the vial he came in initially. I still have the vial so if he'd be better in there I can put him back.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...9_172398_n.jpg
    SO BLUE! I can't get over looking at it.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._7324203_n.jpg
    Day one! My boyfriend's sister got one as well.

    Thanks for all the help and your time! It's fun to learn about a whole new animal.
  • 08-22-2011, 03:57 AM
    Alexandra V
    Awesome choice, those guys are just stunners at every life stage :gj:

    Your setup seems good. The thing with Avicularia is that they need fairly high humidity, but they also need high ventilation, so taking it out of the vial and putting it into a more ventilated anclosure was a good move. Just keep the humidity up with misting like you have been :) as for the plants, that's a great idea. You can get leafy fake plants at a dollar store and "decorate" the enclosure with them, and it'll give him/her somewhere to hide and feel safe, which is always a good thing.

    Those crickets are a bit on the big side for him though. Generally the rule of thumb is the cricket should be no bigger than the spider's abdomen. For him I'd suggest something about as big (a little bigger is OK) as his abdomen 2-3 times a week and you should be golden.

    Good luck with him/her, congrats for taking the plunge, and keep us updated with pictures :D
  • 08-22-2011, 04:26 AM
    thewesterngate
    Agh, more and more I'm wanting my own T's! Gorgeous little one. :D
  • 08-22-2011, 06:48 AM
    Anna.Sitarski
    All these pretty spiders... now I want one.. congrats!
  • 08-22-2011, 06:49 AM
    purplemuffin
    Awww..what a cute baby!! So fluffy!
  • 08-22-2011, 09:39 AM
    Boanerges
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    So at the last expo I saw a few little versicolor spiderlings for sale and I took the jump! I'm not going to lie; spiders make me a little nervous but I figured that having one might be a good way to get over that fear. I have a ton of questions and have been doing tons of Googleing. I joined Arachnoboards to read stuff on there. The little guy came in a vial but everything I've been reading says that those vials aren't good for versicolors because they get too humid. I have personally never heard this. You can always add more holes in the vial if you need better ventilation. You can even add holes in the sides of the vials for better cross ventilation. Just make sure the holes are NOT big enough for the T to squeeze through. I got worried and moved him to a tall plastic cup with a lid but I cut the center of the lid out and replaced it with some fine plastic mesh. He's got some Eco Earth substrate and a few pieces of wood to climb on. Keep a close eye on the wood (if it is from outside) because it is known to mold fast and mold can kill your T. I'm thinking of adding some silk plants and more twigs to make it feel more secure. Would that make it more secure? Yes and it is a good idea. I'm not even clear on if they even need to feel secure. They do :gj: Some are eaiser to do so then others though. I've been misting every couple of days and feeding it little crickets that are about the size of its body every couple of days. Is this okay? Misting is okay. I feed slings 2 x a week personally at most but 2-3 x's a week is generally what is recommended. Does he need more food, less food? See my last comment :D Is that an okay size? Size is fine if it is eating them at that size. But they might eat less and will need less food with a bigger size. I would crush the crickets head before putting it in there so the T does not have to fight that size cricket. I have a picture that I'll post at the end of him with his cricket. I've been removing uneaten body parts from the enclosure. Does my set up sound okay? Sounds ok to me. You can post pics of your new set up for better opinions. What should I add, if anything? Nothing really, sounds good. I've been keeping it mid 70s to low 80s which is what my research has indicated is correct. So in your experience is that the right temp range? Yup, that's fine :D I'm not heating it or anything just keeping it close to my snake enclosures and checking the temp with a temp gun. It spends all the time right up by the lid. Is that okay or is that an indicator that something is wrong in the setup? They are aboreal so they will stay around the top. Some times slings will stay near the bottom for some reason but yours is doing what instinct tells it to :gj: I keep saying "it" is there any way to tell as a little T what gender it is? At that size there is no way to tell yet :( Any suggestions or anything else I need to know? Watch for mold, keep your humdity up and make sure you have good ventilation. I've been reading that these guys are hard to raise up from spiderlings so anything that can help me get it into adulthood would be great. They are said to be hard to raise up from spiderlings. Avics have been known to die as slings for no appearant reason. Okay, as promised...pictures!

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._2658383_n.jpg
    This shows the size crickets I'm feeding him and the vial he came in initially. I still have the vial so if he'd be better in there I can put him back.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...9_172398_n.jpg
    SO BLUE! I can't get over looking at it.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._7324203_n.jpg
    Day one! My boyfriend's sister got one as well.

    Thanks for all the help and your time! It's fun to learn about a whole new animal.

    Beautiful versi!!! Congrats to you and your BF's sister on your new little 8 legged blue fuzz balls :gj: :gj:
  • 08-22-2011, 11:55 AM
    Simple Man
    Congrats on the new one! I think a Versicolor might be my first arboreal. Best of luck :)

    Regards,

    B
  • 08-22-2011, 02:35 PM
    thewesterngate
    I think I'm going to have to get one or two now. Hah! From balls to slings..why does that seem so common?
  • 08-22-2011, 06:03 PM
    babyknees
    Thanks for all the advice and compliments! I added some fake leaves to its home today and it seems to be quite content hiding under them. How do you keep them from trying to come out when you open the enclosure to mist, feed or do other maintenance?
  • 08-22-2011, 06:06 PM
    Boanerges
    I use cubes from the container store cubes that I put upside down so I don't have to deal with that so I am not of much help other then the obvious of just try to be fast :oops:
  • 08-22-2011, 06:07 PM
    Alexandra V
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    Thanks for all the advice and compliments! I added some fake leaves to its home today and it seems to be quite content hiding under them. How do you keep them from trying to come out when you open the enclosure to mist, feed or do other maintenance?

    Either you open it veeeery carefully and make it so that the lid is still on over where the spider is, or when you go to do maintenance, with a very fine point paint brush you can prod them away from the top of the enclosure so they're less likely to bolt out.
  • 08-22-2011, 06:09 PM
    babyknees
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexandra V View Post
    Either you open it veeeery carefully and make it so that the lid is still on over where the spider is, or when you go to do maintenance, with a very fine point paint brush you can prod them away from the top of the enclosure so they're less likely to bolt out.

    Good idea. I'll have to try that next time I have to go in! I was using a similar method to prod him back in. Silly me not thinking to use it before he could get out...
  • 08-24-2011, 08:14 PM
    babyknees
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    More questions:
    How do you measure your humidity? Or do you just judge it by site? What should I look for to tell me that the humidity is right?
    Do Ts dull out before they molt? He's looking a little dull and has refused food the past couple of times I've offered. I'm wondering if I should be expecting some molting soon.
    Ummm I thought I had more but I can't remember. Thanks again for all the help and answers. I can see how inverts are kind of addictive...I'm obsessed with p. metallica but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a good second T... :laughing:
  • 08-24-2011, 11:31 PM
    Alexandra V
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    More questions:
    How do you measure your humidity? Or do you just judge it by site? What should I look for to tell me that the humidity is right?
    Do Ts dull out before they molt? He's looking a little dull and has refused food the past couple of times I've offered. I'm wondering if I should be expecting some molting soon.
    Ummm I thought I had more but I can't remember. Thanks again for all the help and answers. I can see how inverts are kind of addictive...I'm obsessed with p. metallica but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a good second T... :laughing:

    If you want to be really accurate you can try sticking a hygrometer in there, you want the humidity around 70-80% at least. Otherwise you can just go by eye and just keep the substrate moist, it'll usually do the trick. Just give it time to dry out a bit between substrate wettings.

    Yes, they'll appear more dull and kinda ragged when they're approaching a molt, as well as fasting. It sounds to me like your little one is for sure going to molt in the near-ish future :)

    Yes, T's are definitely VERY addictive :P P. metallica are gorgeous, that's for sure. IMO if you can take care of the husbandry and can respect the animal and it's venom (and be careful when doing cage maintenance - they're FAST) and general skittish-ness, then there's no reason why you couldn't have one as a second T :)
  • 08-25-2011, 04:54 PM
    Boanerges
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    More questions:
    How do you measure your humidity? Or do you just judge it by site? Some I just know it's where it should be by looking at what the humidity is in the room currently. I do have some humidty gauges in the room to see what the rooms humidity is. I currently only keep 1 temp/humidty guage in any of my T's tanks and that is in my Theraphosa stirmi's tank. You want to make sure without a doubt the temps/humidty is spot on with them. I use accurite humidty and temp guages (same ones we use for our snakes). What should I look for to tell me that the humidity is right? That's hard for me to answer. You would need to at least know what the humidity is in the room until you get more comfortable with things. You should be fine with a little water dish (if the T is big enough for one) and possible mistings if you needed it to get the humidty where it needs to be.
    Do Ts dull out before they molt? Yes. He's looking a little dull and has refused food the past couple of times I've offered. I'm wondering if I should be expecting some molting soon. Probably :gj:
    Ummm I thought I had more but I can't remember. Thanks again for all the help and answers. I can see how inverts are kind of addictive...I'm obsessed with p. metallica but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a good second T... :laughing:

  • 08-25-2011, 05:05 PM
    Nektu
    I love versi slings. The blue is just awesome. When they get the purple they look even more amazing! Good choice on your T.
  • 09-06-2011, 09:44 PM
    babyknees
    IT MOLTED!
    Either late last night or early this morning. Very cool. Should I try to get the molt out asap or give him a little while to relax before I go yanking things out of the enclosure. Also I read to wait 4-6 days before feeding, is that accurate?
  • 09-06-2011, 10:01 PM
    Alexandra V
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    IT MOLTED!
    Either late last night or early this morning. Very cool. Should I try to get the molt out asap or give him a little while to relax before I go yanking things out of the enclosure. Also I read to wait 4-6 days before feeding, is that accurate?

    Sweet! Congrats on a successful molt, and you don't need to remove it right away, no rush. And personally I always wait at least a week before feeding, just to be extra sure that the new exoskeleton is hardened up.
  • 09-08-2011, 09:38 PM
    babyknees
    Did some cage maintenance today and snapped some pics.

    http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/997...8llbX1W1r2kzdt

    http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/997...8llbX1W1r2kzdt

    I have the worst time getting him in focus. I'm going to have to play with some of my other lenses.
  • 09-08-2011, 10:08 PM
    Alexandra V
    Heehee he's too cute! :D Really nice pics nonetheless. I find I have a tough time getting T's in focus too haha, they always seem to know when it's working and then they move and mess it up :P
  • 10-30-2011, 03:35 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    Ahhh sooo fuzzy, is this a particular type? I want it :)
  • 10-30-2011, 03:23 PM
    babyknees
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch View Post
    Ahhh sooo fuzzy, is this a particular type? I want it :)

    I don't know of it being a particular type. Was just sold to me as a versi. Are there different types? Where do I learn about them?
  • 10-30-2011, 04:10 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    I don't think so.. hes just so fuzzy!!!
  • 10-30-2011, 04:31 PM
    babyknees
    He's a little puff ball! It's very endearing.
  • 10-31-2011, 09:53 AM
    Boanerges
    Re: New little a. versiolor spiderling - My FIRST T!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    I don't know of it being a particular type. Was just sold to me as a versi. Are there different types? Where do I learn about them?

    There is only one type :gj:
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