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What are your thoughts on breeding in 28 quart?
What are your thoughts on breeding in a 28 quart tub?
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I have a few females in 28qt tubs that are breeding, no probs :)
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I wouldn't do it. In my opinion there isn't enough room for the female to thermoregulate so you are chancing egg issues. I had issues with it, a friend of mine had issues with it, and I have read about a few other people having issues too. The issues being, girls don't lay, small clutches, bad eggs, deformities, etc. The cause may not be small tubs, but it's not something I will ever do again.
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I have bred one female a few times in a 28 and then moved her because I didn't feel she had enough room.
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Re: What are your thoughts on breeding in 28 quart?
I have not had any probles with it. I have several females breed and lay in a 28qt.
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I think this is one of those issues that you're going to find a good split between people who DO and people who DON'T use 28qts for breeding. No right or wrong; just preference.
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I've got three females that I plan to breed this year (my first season breeding balls/snakes after 3 years of geckos) - they are all between 1500-1800g. They are all housed in 28qt tubs and are all healthy and eat regularly. Proper temps, humidity, etc. I have two 5 bin racks, one has back heat and one has belly heat. The females are all in the rack with back heat.
I didn't think there would be any issues with breeding in my tubs/racks and I don't really want to mess with them when they are doing well as is, but... I do want the best chance of healthy eggs.
After seeing this post... I'm a little worried. Obviously I don't want to risk any major problems...
What would be the best size tubs for breeding females? Should I switch them to belly heat if I'm going to have to build them a new rack? Or if I keep them in 28 qts, should I still switch them to belly heat? They've had back heat for 2-4 years... again I don't like messing with what they're used to and comfortable with...
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Well now that i think about it, would it be better if you keep 1200-1500 gram females in 28s and 1500+ in 41s ?
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I completly disagree to this, if you want a proper tempermant gradient for your girl she should be on a 41qt, espcially when she's all grown up, If your going to do it, get yourself a 41qt. A 28qt would get WAY to cramped up
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Re: What are your thoughts on breeding in 28 quart?
Personally, I think it would be a bit of a tight fit for most females, let alone a pair of breeding balls. That being said, I do keep and breed some of my girls in 32qt tubs with no problems.
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I keep all my breeder girls in CB-70's. To be honest, I don't think I could imagine trying to breed them in such a small tub? But if it works, it works!
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shelf height and width are the same between 28 and 41s So if you are going to build another rack you can use your dimensions BUT its just a deeper rack.
I am moving my girls up to 41s when they hit 12 to 1500g:gj:
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Ive had some female lay in a 32, IMO I wouldn't consider anything less. Got most of my larger ladies in 41qt tubs.
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Re: What are your thoughts on breeding in 28 quart?
Tried the 28qt, the wife just wouldn't fit.:oops:
The 41qt was still tight, but was doable.:D
In seriuosness though, I use 41qt's for all my adult snakes, BPs, and colubrids.
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Re: What are your thoughts on breeding in 28 quart?
Just my personal experience but my very first clutch ever was conceived and laid in a 28qt tub. So yes it does work (sometimes) but I also very quickly after moved all my breeder females into 41qt tubs. I just think for comfort reasons for the snake that is better. I have also noticed a much better response out of all my females now that they are in the bigger tubs. Even for snakes, that love tight fitting hides, a 28qt tub for an adult female ball python is a little snug I find. : )
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i am planning on breeding in a boaphileplastics ball room rhino rack it is a 41 qt tub i was going to get freedom breeders large frame rack but they are way too expensive for a hobby. i dont like the idea of my snakes being in a small aquarium, tub etc...
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Re: What are your thoughts on breeding in 28 quart?
I have had females breed in a 32, not much of a difference from 28.
I think it depends on the girl. All my breeder girls are usually in CB-70's but I have moved some picky feeders back to 32's to improve feeding response. We are also talking about a 1500 gram snake.
Now a 2500 gram snake would be a different story.
Once again depends on the snake.:snake:
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