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  • 08-16-2011, 06:45 PM
    Willow88
    Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    Soooooo this year was my first attempt at breeding some of my ball pythons

    A few years back I cooked some rat snake eggs, and haven't attempted breeding since lol

    anywho....this was an enchi to lesser pairing

    3 slugs...1 boob egg

    Here is day 55....I cut a window in to see the baby and make sure all was good...this pic is mainly to show off the bad boobness lol

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/1-34.jpg

    And here is Uno....day 57, crawled out said hello (first pic is under my bathroom lighting...very bad lol)

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/3-21.jpg
    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/1-35.jpg

    And some better pics of him outside in some indirect sunlight...he is a tiny 25 grams O.o

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/5-11.jpg

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/3-22.jpg

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/2-32.jpg

    There is a tiny bit of debate on what Uno actually is

    lot of people swear he is an enchi lesser....Since he is a soft lavender color and his blushing is just awesome.

    A few people say he is just an awesome lesser, his back stripe and pattern throw me off....he sure does look alot like mom

    Mom and Dad
    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ter666/5-9.jpg

    Mom around 300ish grams...Uno sure as heck isnt this dark.....mom went through a big color change as she grew up lol...faded out and lost some yellowing
    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ter666/mom.jpg

    Soooo

    What yall think? lol
  • 08-16-2011, 06:48 PM
    purplemuffin
    :O I have no idea, but good grief!! Uno is gooorgeous!! I would love a baby bp who looked like that :)
  • 08-16-2011, 06:54 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Albino.


    Teeheee.....

    I think he's probaly a enchi lesser. Better to see when he's shed.
  • 08-16-2011, 06:58 PM
    spitzu
    Enchi/Lesser imo. And really? 1/2 of a good egg out of 4 and you hit the 1/4 morph :P
  • 08-16-2011, 07:12 PM
    dr del
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    Cool enchi lesser. :D
  • 08-16-2011, 07:13 PM
    angllady2
    You'll have a much better idea when he sheds. But I'm pretty sure I know what to call Uno: mine!:D

    You can't blame me for trying, can you ?

    Congratulations!

    Gale
  • 08-16-2011, 07:16 PM
    llovelace
    Uno is precious :)
  • 08-16-2011, 07:18 PM
    DC Reptiles
    great looking hatchling
  • 08-16-2011, 07:19 PM
    mainbutter
    The dilemma:
    -Doesn't look like he's got enchi in him.
    -Looks prettier than "just" a lesser
    -parents were a lesser and an enchi

    I'm going to place my bet that he's a lesser, and due to egg-issues has developed a little differently.
  • 08-16-2011, 07:24 PM
    Anna.Sitarski
    i will take him if his ugliness off puts you.. i mean i will sacrifice the space here ;)
  • 08-16-2011, 07:31 PM
    Willow88
    The only egg issues seem to be that he came out small

    temps where stable the whole time...normally pattern issues coincide with temp fluctuations

    The biggest part of the debate is that yes, his pattern is a bit off for a lesser enchi...

    but

    his colors are spot on....lesser enchis come out purple

    lesser do not

    The fact that he is spotless would help....if mom wasn't nearly spotless herself lol
  • 08-16-2011, 08:10 PM
    Freakie_frog
    No doubt in my mind that's an enchi lesser all day every day. Congrats that's one hell of a way to start breeding ball pythons.


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  • 08-16-2011, 08:17 PM
    LadyOhh
    Yes indeed. That is an Enchi Lesser!
  • 08-16-2011, 08:26 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Wow mom really changed! He is gorgeous!!!!
  • 08-16-2011, 08:29 PM
    Willow88
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    Wow mom really changed! He is gorgeous!!!!

    yes she did...now keep in mind that pic of her with Dad is a bad pic lol, her colors are pretty washed out

    but her dark areas lightened up alot....and her yellow faded down alot as well

    so she looks alot different then when she was a baby hehe

    but shes still a stunning lesser mama :P
  • 08-16-2011, 08:36 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    I hatched 3x clutches of lessers last year and none of them looked close to that. I get its a morph with a variety, but my bets on enchi lesser also.
  • 08-16-2011, 08:37 PM
    Louis Kirkland
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    Beautiful Enchi Lesser! Good luck with the little guy! :gj:
  • 08-16-2011, 09:08 PM
    DellaF
    Uno is looking good :)
  • 08-16-2011, 09:22 PM
    JoeEllisReptiles
    That is a smoking Lesser Enchi!! If you want to sell it as just a Lesser ill buy it ;)
  • 08-16-2011, 09:26 PM
    Emilio
    Very nice big Congrats can't wait to see post shed pic's.

    droid!!!!
  • 08-16-2011, 09:32 PM
    LizardPants
    You really got lucky! Congrats!
  • 08-17-2011, 08:55 AM
    sho220
    That's definitely an Enchi Lesser...congrats!
  • 08-17-2011, 09:25 AM
    TheSnakeEye
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    Awesome that he made it, but it's best to wait after a couple sheds to see what really starts to pop up.
  • 08-17-2011, 10:09 AM
    SlytherynHiss
    Hi, Willow :-)
    It seems UNO is creating quite a stir all over the Internet...LOL. (S)He is just AWESOME!
  • 08-17-2011, 12:24 PM
    Clear
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    The dilemma:
    -Doesn't look like he's got enchi in him.
    -Looks prettier than "just" a lesser
    -parents were a lesser and an enchi

    I'm going to place my bet that he's a lesser, and due to egg-issues has developed a little differently.

    Pretty much what I told Willow.

    I think its an awesome lesser.
  • 08-17-2011, 12:29 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Dang, tiny little guy! Screams enchi lesser to me. Big congrats, and good luck with him!
  • 08-17-2011, 12:48 PM
    sho220
    I really don't understand the controversy...he looks just like every other Enchi Lesser I've seen...:confused:

    If that's from being a boob egg...I hope I get a bunch of boob eggs next year. :D
  • 08-17-2011, 02:26 PM
    Willow88
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    His colors are spot on

    I think people are having issues with his back stripe

    that seems to be his only non enchi lesser trait...
  • 08-17-2011, 02:39 PM
    Jessica Loesch
    Just because his pattern isn't perfect doesn't make him just a lesser. Could be low quality enchi pattern, high quality color.

    My vote is for the combo.
  • 08-17-2011, 04:50 PM
    Clear
    This lessers has great color. She has the nice purple hue to her.

    http://www.theherpvault.com/images/c...F_lesser_1.JPG

    Here is a lesser enchi, looks like pre-shed

    http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...esserenchi.jpg

    http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...sserenchia.jpg
  • 08-17-2011, 04:54 PM
    EverEvolvingExotics
    I cannot wait for update pics. If you are only going to hatch out one snake, that's the way to do it! Congrats.
  • 08-17-2011, 05:09 PM
    Dave Green
    I know exactly what it is...bada$$.

    I say enchi lesser
  • 08-17-2011, 05:23 PM
    John1982
    Uno is a beauty, congrats!
  • 08-17-2011, 07:52 PM
    Willow88
    Clear-that really is a stunning lesser enchi....but not ALL enchi lessers come out like that

    here is a pic from Ralphs site of two enchi lessers....one has the banded pattern, the other has less banding.....and quiet a bit of back pattern, both of them seem to be the EXACT same color as Uno

    http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/im...lutch_13_4.jpg

    Also is that lesser pre shed or post? I'm really not seeing any purple...maybe some dark brown/black hues that may show up purplish in photos

    Also even tho that lesser seems to be spotless I'm noticing some freckling in its alein heads....Uno's mom is nearly spotless as well, but also show this freckling in her alien heads

    Uno's alien heads are pure silk lol...no freckles or blemishes in the coloring at all.

    NOW

    I'm not saying it isnt possible that Uno may turn out to be a very very stunning lesser

    BUT

    his pattern seems to be the only thing anyone can question on him....since his cleanness, color and blushing all seem to point to enchi lesser

    Also....I just took a close look at his eyes and they seem to be green, now of course its a little hard to tell on such itty bitty eyeballs lol, but he also has this green hue on the scales above his eyes, which seems common among enchi lessers....lesser moms eyes are more yellow...enchi dads eyes are green....

    *shrug* more for the debate I guess lol
  • 08-17-2011, 11:34 PM
    elbee
    I am no expert but looks enchi lesser to me. I do know that Uno is GORGEOUS and adorable and you should post more pics of him :)
  • 08-17-2011, 11:57 PM
    Willow88
    Re: Baby Uno is causing some debate hehe
    These ones came out stupidly blurry but they help show how tiny he is in my hand hehe...the camera wanted to focus on my hand and not on Uno lol

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/1-37.jpg

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...er666/2-33.jpg
  • 08-18-2011, 12:05 AM
    Willow88
  • 08-18-2011, 02:58 AM
    A&S Reptiles
    ENCHI LESSER! Hey I'll make the drive down from Flagstaff and settle this ;)
  • 08-18-2011, 05:37 AM
    Evildrdee
    Handsome baby anyway, whatever he/she is. Those eyes just sparkel with crazy colors!
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