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Never saw THAT coming!
That's crazy: female hatchling enchis are selling for close to the same price as male hatchling pieds.
If you told me that would happen 3 years ago, I wouldn't have believed it!
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Re: Never saw THAT coming!
Enchis are the new black.
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I keep telling myself I should have picked up that hatchling last year for $200.
But it was ugly, and not the star example of the morph that I dream of, so I know it was the right decision.
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Enchi is My next ball I'm buying... Especially If My Granite female proves... Enchi/Granites... Drools.....
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I think the price difference between male and female enchis is crazy. I bought a male for less than half the price of a female and I'm just going to breed him to my normals and pray for females. :P
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Yeah, my enchi is not the prettiest enchi. But she's stupid cute!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W...0/IMG_3512.JPG
Did you see the amazing enchi they were selling at NERD last year? I guess people complained repeatedly that NERD only put up blah-looking enchis for sale, so they put up a really amazing high orange female... for $1000!
(And I think somebody bought it, too, because it only stayed up a couple weeks.)
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Originally Posted by Kinra
I think the price difference between male and female enchis is crazy. I bought a male for less than half the price of a female and I'm just going to breed him to my normals and pray for females. :P
I think that's the way to go. I kinda wish I'd done that instead.
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Originally Posted by loonunit
I think that's the way to go. I kinda wish I'd done that instead.
I thought it was a good plan too, until I saw stinging bumble bees and realized I really wanted to make one. So I went out and bought a female bee as his future girlfriend, overall I would have spent less if I just bought a female enchi to begin with. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead
Those are some stunning enchis.
I believe you should send some over one province to the left of you :cool:
But really, Im in the market for an enchi male. Must have.
Some of the combos they make are stunning
You can really clean up certain combos with them.
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My female got dark at around 800g. She is at 1000g now. Not sure what I'm gonna breed her to now. Originally I was thinking butter, but now not so sure. Maybe my chocolate.
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a few years ago people thought enchis were just ugly pastel's. now that they ahve been line bred and cleaned up a bit they are the hottest ticket. in 2 years they will be 50 bucks again....lol
adam jeffery
i love my enchi. he is the best looking one ive seen available for sale so i snatched him up from alan cole.
i cant wait to breed him. im hoping to have him up to size by this coming season. not sure he will make though
adam jeffery
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I love enchi's too, and bought this girl several years ago. Unfortunate circumstances, and she's not in my collection - I still mourn for her. She was hands down the hottest enchi I've ever seen or held. Probably why I still keep her as my logo.
It sure FELT like people were ignoring them for several years, but I was on a mission when I picked her out.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...i/IMG_5253.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...i/IMG_5254.jpg
Now I have this hot male, who hopefully will give me some girls this year and some really sweet enchi combo's. His date card has a het pied and pied female this year (he's possible het pied) and probably two other girls. So while fingers are crossed for some really nice combo's (an enchi pied would make my day), getting a nice hot reduced pattern enchi female from him would be what I wished for most.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...8oct10new1.jpg
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I love enchi's and enchi crosses! I got a female enchi last year, and this year I am hoping to get a enchi cross of some sort (perhaps a Mo-Chi) to go with her :D
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Bruce those are absolutely killer Enchis, I really like them.
My Enchi Female just passed 1500gr and has a date with the Hidden Gene Woma Granite Yellowbelly, hoping for the Enchi Woma YB out of that pairing.
Our other Enchi female went on a hunger strike for a bit, she just passed 800gr.
We also held back all our Enchi females we produced this year, we fortunate enough to get 1 Pastel Enchi female out of 3.
The Enchi combos are some of the best, was definately under appreciated for some time.
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I have 7 in my collection and am adding two more holdbacks this year.
A nice enchi is worth every cent.
Bruce you need to start sharing with other (ME) instead of keeping them all for yourself ;)
Those are some sexy enchis :gj:
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NICE enchis are awesome! There are a lot of bland enchis out there though. Not as many as there are bland pastels though! But man, I love what enchi does to other morphs. I enjoy when people use both pastel and enchi, lol or just try to get as many of the 'yellow' ish morphs all in one snake..Pastel..yellowbelly..enchi..fire..etc etc :P
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There are so many under rated morphs out there right now its just a matter of time before someone unlocks a killer combo off of these under rated cheapies LOL
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I just picked up my male Enchi about a month ago. He's doing good with eating I'm hoping he will go later this season.
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I, too, am kicking myself that I didn't A. pick up a bunch of Enchi females a couple of years ago; I think they were actually in the $400-500 range then, and have actually increased in value! ... Or B. picked up a stunning example of a male and just made myself a bunch of females. :/ Oh well, hindsight and whatnot ... and I guess I could still pick up that male. :rolleyes:
I mean, I love the Enchi girls that I have ... I just want more of 'em! :O
Seeing what happened with the Enchi market, I can't help but think that maybe it's a bit of an example of why some of the bigger breeders do the kind of "stealth marketing" that they do. To give an example, one of the hottest genes out there (and still way up in price) is the "hidden-gene" woma. ... But that's not really because it's a wild and crazy looking morph, like the banana; it actually looks so similar to a run-of-the-mill $200 morph (regular woma) that for a long time it was thought they were the same thing. They're in such demand because NERD showed us all of the wicked stuff you can make with it ... Before releasing any to the market. Now everybody wants that secret ingredient.
I can remember reading a few older posts, though, where people just thought that Enchi was another line of pastel. Their true potential to produce wicked stuff wasn't really shown until after they were already all over the market -- and priced fairly cheap for a new morph, since no one knew what they could do.
... I agree, too, that the USA seems to have a lot of very "blah" Enchis (I did have another female at one point, but she looked like a banded normal -- not that I don't love those, too! -- so I traded her). It seems to me that I see pictures of European Enchis and many of those are way nicer. I'm sure that didn't help promote the morph much, either.
That's my market speculation, anyway ... :P
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An Enchi isn't a perfect 10 but its an okay morph don't get me wrong I think the price went up becuase of all the amazing other morphs you can make w. Enchis, you guys also have some reallly cool stuff btw
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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead
Good luck I hope you get them!
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Originally Posted by loonunit
She looks fantastic to me. Very clean with great color. :gj:
I've always been a fan of Enchis. Finally picked up a male last year...:)
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Originally Posted by sho220
She looks fantastic to me. Very clean with great color. :gj:
I've always been a fan of Enchis. Finally picked up a male last year...:)
Oh, I would have liked her with the color going higher up---she's pretty dark compared to some of the fantastic ones being posted on this thread.
BUT she's clearly an enchi. She does have the color, especially around her tail, and really obvious banding. You don't see so many enchis for sale with that really classic banding. And she eats like a PIG: This is a picture of her giving me the stink eye because I haven't fed her in three. Whole. Days. I admit, it's nicer to have a snake with an appetite sometimes! Especially the females.
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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana
... I agree, too, that the USA seems to have a lot of very "blah" Enchis (I did have another female at one point, but she looked like a banded normal -- not that I don't love those, too! -- so I traded her). It seems to me that I see pictures of European Enchis and many of those are way nicer. I'm sure that didn't help promote the morph much, either.
I can't comment on your market speculation, I just don't know enough. But the european vs. American enchi comment sure is interesting---any breeders in particular you've noticed with really outstanding animals?
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Originally Posted by loonunit
I can't comment on your market speculation, I just don't know enough. But the european vs. American enchi comment sure is interesting---any breeders in particular you've noticed with really outstanding animals?
My comment doesn't have a terribly scientific basis at all; just an observation based on Internet pictures :rolleyes: . Like this forum, for example - the majority of Enchis pictured are from England (the ones from Robin and Matt Ghi notwithstanding) and most of 'em are pretty darn nice looking :)
http://www.captivebredreptileforums....ll-python.html
... I feel like a random sampling of American-bred Enchis, by contrast, will contain a lot of mediocre ones, some really bad ones and a few really good ones. It makes sense to me, really -- I mean, the morph originated in Europe, so I would imagine that they have been selectively bred over there for longer.
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