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  • 08-09-2011, 11:50 AM
    muzikfreakah
    Project change, to sell or or not to sell my spider.
    Well, basically, I got an adult spider thinking that I would be able to buy and adult female pasteland get a bee as well but I wasn't able to find one so I ended up getting a female pastel hatchling and a female normal hatchling.

    Now I am thinking that I will sell my 2 year old spider which I just bought as sn adult a few months back and just get a hatchling bee female and a male pastel also. Now I will have all hatchlings and they will grow together and be breedable at least 2 years from now rather than wait for my current pastel to grow up and by the time my spider wil already be 4 years old. anyway, breeding a bee and a pastel, I will eventually get a new spider also right?

    The reason I got to this point is I saw female bumble bees available at a good price (Philippine price) and someone really wants my adult spider for his projects this year.

    At least they will be all '11s snakes. You think this is a good idea? :)

    I will end up with a pastel male to breed with me female normal, female pastel and female bee 2 years from now. Wachathink?

    Thanks in advance for taking your time to read this.
  • 08-09-2011, 11:51 AM
    muzikfreakah
    Btw I am in no hurry to breed at this point but there us no harm in planning right? :)
  • 08-09-2011, 11:55 AM
    Tidus10
    balls can live up to 20-30 years of age.. at 4 hes still a pup.. id keep him.. but if you really dont care about the snake sell him off and get more to your collection..
  • 08-09-2011, 11:56 AM
    ace_singapore
    If e spider is a he, which I assume so, I will sell him.
  • 08-09-2011, 11:58 AM
    Kinra
    I think you should get the bee, but wait until next year to get your male. You could save up and get a nice super pastel male too. Males are ready to breed much sooner than females so having a male that is a year younger is fine.
  • 08-09-2011, 12:06 PM
    muzikfreakah
    It's not that I don't care, it's that ball pythons here are ridiculously priced as of the moment. Also, the buyer is a friend who has more money than me and he needs this guy more for his current projects. I only started this hobby this year that's why I wanna get it right and hopefully with BP.net I will. If had the money to buy the hatchling bee,I will not sell Spidey, but I don't for now and this opportunity just presented itself when I saw the female bee.

    I still really am confused.

    Yes he is a male spider. Good idea also on the holding off on getting the male :)

    Sent from Tapatalk using an iPad.
  • 08-09-2011, 12:24 PM
    dr del
    Re: Project change, to sell or or not to sell my spider.
    Hi,

    If he is a friend and has animals ready to breed why not do a breeding loan instead?

    That way you could get your bee for free and a female spider or pastel into the bargain.

    Just have a good agreement in writing so that everyone goes into it with their eyes open.


    dr del
  • 08-09-2011, 12:45 PM
    llovelace
    Who's to say you won't find that pastel female in the next few months :rolleyes:
  • 08-09-2011, 12:50 PM
    pinkeye714
    Re: Project change, to sell or or not to sell my spider.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by llovelace View Post
    Who's to say you won't find that pastel female in the next few months :rolleyes:

    On a realistic note, he is in the Philippines and a breeder size pastel female might not be in his budget right now since people will be holding off on their big girls for a high high price there.



    i would say do a breeding loan, sounds like a better idea then just getting rid of your spider male. You never know when he might come in handy.
  • 08-09-2011, 08:29 PM
    muzikfreakah
    I forgot to mention, someone did offer me an adult 08 pastel female (not yet proven) but he sold it to me at Php 45,000.00 that's about $1071 and the price of a new Bumblebee hatchling is only about $833. So I found it funny that I would buy this to hopefully produce a bee when I can just go ahead and buy a bee at a cheaper price :(

    Yes, having him stud instead is a very good suggestion. Someone has offered me already to stud my spider to two normal females and I would get the spiders that would come out or the normals if there aren't any. As for the interested buyer, I yet have to ask him if he would allow to stud it instead of buying it and to what would I get.
  • 08-09-2011, 08:30 PM
    muzikfreakah
    What the normal sample terms of a breeding loan there guys? :)
  • 08-09-2011, 09:33 PM
    dr del
    Re: Project change, to sell or or not to sell my spider.
    Hi,

    I think ladyohh posted a sample contract at one point - searching for that would probably save you some time.

    And the reason that pastel was more than a bee is simply because it could have produced anything up to 10 eggs this year and each one would have had a 25% chance of being a bee.

    You should have bought her.

    You'd have not only likely got the bee you wanted but probably recouped your costs and possibly even made a profit.

    Which is why not that many people sell breeding age females.


    dr del
  • 08-09-2011, 10:43 PM
    muzikfreakah
    Re: Project change, to sell or or not to sell my spider.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    I think ladyohh posted a sample contract at one point - searching for that would probably save you some time.

    And the reason that pastel was more than a bee is simply because it could have produced anything up to 10 eggs this year and each one would have had a 25% chance of being a bee.

    You should have bought her.

    You'd have not only likely got the bee you wanted but probably recouped your costs and possibly even made a profit.

    Which is why not that many people sell breeding age females.


    dr del

    Your thoughts are highly considered. The pastel is still available you know. Will give it some more thought and will search for the thread :-)
  • 08-09-2011, 11:49 PM
    muzikfreakah
    I just called the Patel 08 adult female. She is 1400grams. I hope I will be able to get her as someone has sorta like committed verbally to get her already. Trying to get to her first. Wish me luck guys!
  • 08-10-2011, 05:44 AM
    muzikfreakah
    Just an update. I am checking out the Adult pastel 08 female tomorrow. The owner said the last feed was July 31 and just recently shed. It doesn't feed on Rats so what he does is he feeds it pre killed mice hoppers then follows it up with rat when it is in feeding mode. I said, I have never heard of this way of feeding before so would like to see it fed before I buy, he told me he doesn't want to waste any of our times on waiting for it to feed, and it is normal for a BP not to feed all the time. The weight is 1400g as of the moment.

    So what do you guys think? Is this worth the $1070. I am really having second thoughts but still want to see the snake personally tomorrow to finalize my decision.
  • 08-11-2011, 12:24 AM
    muzikfreakah
    Well, I guess the female pastel wasn't for me. I never saw it and he told me that it got sold last night. Weird really.

    Right now I am really leaning towards keeping Spidey already and take my chances in the future.

    Thanks for all your help guys :)
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