my firends ball python 12ft + I think

My sister is in this picture, this is my friends ball python the fat guy with the warping around his foot, its his snake, i believe he keeps it in a 50gal tank too.

how old do you think this snake is and if the cops see it could they do anything?

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He also has a 10ft red tail boa witch is bad and bites. he was once bitten by this snake right after he had feed it.

what are your thoughts on this have you ever seen something this big as a ball python and how old do you think it is?

That is a burmese not a ball. They can get up to 20 feet depending on sex.

Is that really a Ball Python?? It's huge...!!!!

are you a troll?

if not...

ummm. that is a burmese python, which is probably going to get 13+ feet long and be about 150lbs.

he should NOT have his snake outside like that!!!!!! stuff like that is what gives reptile people a bad name. and yes, the cops could probably call animal control of some sort, and they would probably destroy the snake. where i live at least, these are on a controlled species list and you need a permit to own them.

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Originally Posted by Jared2608

Is that really a Ball Python?? It's huge...!!!!

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nope it's not.

I'm not a troll or what ever that is. And my bad I did know it's a python but was not too sure if it was a ball python now I know. And I live in new york this photo was taken in queens. Also could some one tell me what is a troll???

The very first thing I thought of was Burmese because of the close pattern...I just didn't wanna come right out and say this guy is confused, lol!!

lol is this a serious thread?! if so thats just sad. First of all thats not a ball, its a burm. Second a 50gal for a burmese at that size is waaay too small. And yes, if the cops sees or someone reports it because they are afraid, the cops can take action to an extent depending what your state/city laws are.

Im not usaually rude to people on here but your friend shouldnt be within 100ft of herps if he is THAT uneducated and irresponsible.

a troll is somebody that comes on forums and purposely asks stupid questions and posts things that are meant to infuriate/rile up other members, lol.

sorry if you're not intending to do that!

and i believe in New York (the entire state) burms are completely illegal. that's just what a quick google search came up with, i could be wrong.

i am from new york and they are illegal in the entire state. you cannot get a permit for it unless he filed during the grandfather period which expired years ago.
adam jeffery

Sorry if I'm bothering anyone. I'm new to snakes and getting into them a lot. I just wanted to share the two photos I don't want to piss any one off or intend too.


Wow they are illegal he never told me that I don't know what to say or do.

Nothing much you can do or say, I think people where just pointing out that this is in fact a Burmese and not a Ball Python. As for people saying you're a troll, you can't really blame them, there have been a few lately...

Part of the issue is that we are very sensitive to the problems facing our community--there are a lot of people with fear of snakes, and a harmless BALL python (which is usually 3-5 feet) is often confused for burmese pythons by people who don't know better--that makes people think ball pythons will grow 20 feet, when they cannot. When a ball python is found and people think it could grow to 20 ft...the people who find it will kill it. Which is unnecessary!! That's like saying a yorkie is gonna be as big as a great dane, not gonna happen! We don't like those falsehoods and as such the community is sensitive to posts like that(claiming a big burmese was a ball python, an animal we know to be small and manageable) so people get a little defensive!

But glad you know now! Ball pythons are little, burmese pythons are big!

Thanks for letting me know. I'm not a troll, and you'll see me around the forums a lot as ever I can to this site I started loving snakes more. I'm going to start studding online about them from today on.

Welcome to the forum then! :)

Welcome to BP.net.

That's a burmese python(like others have said) and in NYC I believe they are illegal unless he has a permit(which means the police will confiscate it and fine him, unless he turns it in to a shelter first).

A 50g tank is really small for him to keep it in also.

Ball pythons only get to about 5-6 ft fully mature, so they wouldn't ever get that big.

Some boas are bitey(any snake can just be bitey) so it's not necassarily that it's mistreated that it tries to bite. Some snakes just like to strike. Anyone who has snakes and handles them on a regular basis has probably been struck a few times. That means nothing, really. Even the best cared for snake will occasionally strike, either because it thought there was food, it was going into shed and just couldn't see... or it just felt like it right then. It's part of being a snake.

If you're interested in keeping any reptiles, you should first find out what the laws are in your area where you live. That way you don't fall in love with the idea of owning any particular species THEN find out you can't. Better to know what's legal and look at those.

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Thanks for letting me know. I'm not a troll, and you'll see me around the forums a lot as ever I can to this site I started loving snakes more. I'm going to start studding online about them from today on.

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Im sorry, I thought you were trolling too :oops: I didnt mean to sound so harsh, that kind of stuff just really bothers me. However you should DEFINITLY tell your friend to start build that poor snake a better enclosure.
Welcome to the world of snakes! I think you'll find it quite addictting lol :welcome:

poor burmie!!!!

+1 Melody...Also, tell him not to take it outside anymore, he's just looking for trouble, and you guys just barely managed to stop those outrageous bills passing!!

People like this (the photo) are part of the reason they are trying to take our snakes away from us. Please tell him that Burmese pythons are illegal in NY. If he thought it was a ball python, he needs to surrender it to a rescuer anyway. Not only is he housing it wrong since there is no glass aquarium which will safely and securely contain an adult Burmese, but if he does not even know what he owns, or that he owns an illegal animal, he would be better off with a dog.

Plus too me it seems kinda sad to put it on the hot and dirty concrete.:colbert:

A snake of that size in a 55 gal tank simply cannot have a good living environment. There is no way that he can have a hot or cool end because he fills it end to end.

The snake is being put out into what has to be a very stressful environment. People walking by, cars, busses driving close, exhaust, dogs, whatever. If that snake bites someone, or even strikes at someone, or even if someone sees him and turns it in, that snake is confiscated and probably destroyed. The owner is not only keeping him illegally and in sub par conditions, but the owner doesn't seem to have a shred of good sense when it comes to not scaring people with his pet and making things worse than they already are for the public perception of reptiles.

The Issue in NY is that City of New York have very strict law about pets... basically everything besides fish some small rodents and small birds are illegal.

As reptile law if I good remember burmese are not illegal in state but for every snake above 7 feet You need to get permit..
As City law in NYC (5 borough that means Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island) all Boas and Pythons (including micro spotted python and rosy boa) all Varanids, Tegus, Iguanas, and all venomous Animal including arachnids and scorpions are prohibited...

Fines when You get catch going up to 5000$ per animal and animal is destroyed after is seized...

I know that this is bad law.. because even if i was worry about snake I prefer have 4-5 feet ball python in my neighbor house instead potential aggressive 10 feet Taiwan Beauty snake (and guess what.. just because those are colubrids no "monster pythons" those are legal) but unfortunately because of conservative in they approach to pet policy people in major office i dont see it change in next couple of decades...

So summary: Somebody should inform this guy about potential danger for himself and rest of community he can put because of his reckless behavior...

the only way to own that snake in ny state is with a permit. they were banned in 2004. If animal control sees that snake or catches wind of him owning it they will show up at his crib and take the snake and fine him. I was born and raised in ny so i know the reptile laws very well

^agreed. New York laws suck. Hence why I'm moving out of it.

Another thing.. You said he was bitten by this burmese after feeding it once.. You never handle a snake after feeding. You also never go in directly towards it's head to take it out. There are ways to handle and calm these big snakes to ensure they stay calm and tame. I hope your friend finds a different home for this snake where it will be properly cared for.

you own 2 ball pythons but you posted this thinking it was one, you should read a lot more. and dont listen to anything this guy says. im surprised that animal is still alive and hes not in jail yet. if he tries to tell you how to care for your animals just nod your head and smile, then come here and ask us for the correct info.

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you own 2 ball pythons but you posted this thinking it was one, you should read a lot more. and dont listen to anything this guy says. im surprised that animal is still alive and hes not in jail yet. if he tries to tell you how to care for your animals just nod your head and smile, then come here and ask us for the correct info.

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I was thinking this same exact thing!