breed what to my pastel?

so I have a very young male pastel and im going to get a young female to breed later on down the road. im thinking a female pinstripe or spider. any ideas? I also kinda like the idea of an albino but don't know if I would get any good morphs from that and pastel.

It's all up to you! Personally, I love Bumble Bees so I'd go with a Spider. There's endless possibilities though. You can breed a Pastel to anything your heart desires! :)

Yea, a Spider was my first thought too :) everybody seems to want Bees right now.
I was just wondering if there were any other cool pastel morphs out there that i may have overlooked.

everyone does some type of bee. it was cool 4-5 years ago, well ok still cool now, but i would say mojave/lesser/butter. one of the 3 makes a cool snake. Or settle in for a long haul and go with a recessive trait of some type.

Or a cinnamon :)

Going for a recessive trait seems a bit overwhelming to me right now, i may end up doing that later. I do like lessers though, thats another one i've considered. Wouldn't that just give me a pastel lesser (best case) though? The cinnamon is very tempting because i love pewters. This is such a tough decision, haha. I may end up getting two females. :D

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Going for a recessive trait seems a bit overwhelming to me right now, i may end up doing that later. I do like lessers though, thats another one i've considered. Wouldn't that just give me a pastel lesser (best case) though? The cinnamon is very tempting because i love pewters. This is such a tough decision, haha. I may end up getting two females. :D

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haha, you won't be able to stop at just two more! Ball Pythons are like potato chips, super addictive. :P

Personally, depending on your budget I would go with a lesser/butter or a bee. If you get a bee you have a shot at killer bees, super pastels, bees and pastels. A cinny or fire would be good too, pewters and fireflies are hot!

Yea i'm quickly realizing the addiction, i've spent too much time on this site already, haha.
A bee is probably out of my budget for now, i really wish i could get one though because that would be a good clutch no matter what. I think i'm leaning towards a cinnamon at the moment. And maybe a spider after that. I think a pewter is my goal for now

I don't think you can go wrong with a cinny. If you produce a male and female pewter you can breed the little boy back to mom and have a shot at silver bullet and you can breed the little girl back to dad and have a shot at sterlings. :D

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I don't think you can go wrong with a cinny. If you produce a male and female pewter you can breed the little boy back to mom and have a shot at silver bullet and you can breed the little girl back to dad and have a shot at sterlings. :D

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can you breed them back to their parents like that? i assumed that wouldn't be a good idea but i haven't looked into it yet (mostly since i'm a long way from having to deal with that)

Yes it's ok to do.


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Interesting, so should you only do it to an extent? i mean i'm sure its not good to do that forever.

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Interesting, so should you only do it to an extent? i mean i'm sure its not good to do that forever.

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It's generally not recommended that you breed siblings together, but breeding a parent to a child is okay. If I remember correctly this okay to do for a generation or two but you will eventually start seeing problems if you do it for several generations.

Ok that makes sense. Thanks Kinra!

silverbullet and sterling's are beautiful snakes..they definitely get my vote

its my understanding that 3 generations is max for breeding, i.e. mother --> son -->daughter. but for what morph, i would say granite :) but i am biased, as granite was my first.

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silverbullet and sterling's are beautiful snakes..they definitely get my vote

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I agree :)

and that makes sense i don't know if I would want to go past 2 generations just to be safe.

I personally really like fireflies, but they're not as exciting as bees and pewters etc. Just high high yellows. Pastels have sooo many complementing morphs, you can't go wrong :} You could get him another pastel girlfriend on the cheap to try for supers, so that you can 100% get that pastel gene in future projects.

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I personally really like fireflies, but they're not as exciting as bees and pewters etc. Just high high yellows. Pastels have sooo many complementing morphs, you can't go wrong :} You could get him another pastel girlfriend on the cheap to try for supers, so that you can 100% get that pastel gene in future projects.

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That's actually a really good thought, because im a poor college kid and don't have all the money in the world to spend on BPs. :rolleyes:
If i can't get a cinnamon i may end up just getting another pastel to go for a super.

Whatever morph you decide to go with, when you start producing babies you can start trading and getting other genes to work with and not have to lay out a ton of money for them.

I have a pied and het pied female and I'm going to buy a pied male and breed them next season. I don't want a whole bunch of pieds but I figure that I can get a nice assortment of snakes without paying out more for them by doing a little trading.

get a spider its more valuable to your collection later on with all the bee morphs out there

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get a spider its more valuable to your collection later on with all the bee morphs out there

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Yea i think a spider is gonna be my 3rd snake, i was gonna get a spider but i really like pewters :oops:

And yea im planning on trading a lot. It seems that as soon as you have a successful clutch that you are well into the hobby without having to put TOO much more money into it. Unless you go buy a crazy morph or something :P

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Yea i think a spider is gonna be my 3rd snake, i was gonna get a spider but i really like pewters :oops:

And yea im planning on trading a lot. It seems that as soon as you have a successful clutch that you are well into the hobby without having to put TOO much more money into it. Unless you go buy a crazy morph or something :P

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just make sure you have a lot of females.. its kinda like the males will be the gene carriers for the most part and the females will be the baby makers..

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just make sure you have a lot of females.. its kinda like the males will be the gene carriers for the most part and the females will be the baby makers..

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Yea im not planning on buying any males for a long time, i may keep one from what i breed but im only buying females for now.

The only thing with spiders is everyone has them and they are all breeding some type of bee project. I say be different and do something that not everyone is doing. It will cost more but may prove to be well worth it in the end. but that is IMO.

Go cinny. Can't go wrong with pewters. and I agree bees are everywheres.

pewters and lesser pastels are super pretty, bees are great (my favorite!) but they're everywhere. But for your first clutch definitely breed not only what you want, but what those babies can start building in future too :) definitely post what you end up getting!

What about a pinstripe?

+1 for Cinny... On a budget great matches for Pastels are Spider, Pinstripe, Cinny, Fire just to name a few. That's kind of the route I have gone, for now. :D