Website Design Picture

I know this should probably go in business talk but I want you guys to see this pic and make sure its not somebodies out there. My website designer found it and said it was not copyrighted or watermarked but I want to make sure. I dont want credit for something that is not mine. My webdesigner is not snake savy and this is the first one he came up with. Let me know.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...mes81/logo.jpg

A place I use to get stock photos is istockphoto.com. You could search it for python pics if you don't have any of your own.

It's a lot more impressive when the pictures being used are of your own animals.

I think using your own photo's really adds originality to your banner. I made mine in about an hour, and everything about is my own idea. The snake in the background is my G-Stripe Male.

I'm sure you have a digital camera, snap a few pictures, tweak and peak the colors a bit, and then add the artwork. It's pretty simple with Photoshop!

Good Luck!

Trey Jackson

Oh I have taken a bunch of pics of mine and hes working on them now, I just wanted to make sure this was no ones. Just in case I use it on the website for when I get some GTP's But thank you for the imput

Hi,

Basically it's someones.

Just finding one nobody has watermarked doesn't make it copywrite free.

Your web designer should know that.


dr del

Not to mention I wouldn't use a picture of a snake you do not currently keep or breed. By putting that image on your website you are advertising you work with that species. If you truly like that species and want to breed them, wait until you get your own, and THEN use your own images.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Basically it's someones.

Just finding one nobody has watermarked doesn't make it copywrite free.

Your web designer should know that.


dr del

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I agree with you on this, but he is new and this is his first website hes building. I will change it.

I get a great sense of satisfaction when looking at my wbsite knowing that all animals are mine & were photograhed by me :)

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Originally Posted by llovelace

I get a great sense of satisfaction when looking at my wbsite knowing that all animals are mine & were photograhed by me :)

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I completely agree with the above. I also get a sense of satisfaction knowing that the animals are mine, and I built my own website. It may be not the best out there, but I am completely happy with it. That, to me, is all that matters!

Trey Jackson

I agree. I love using my own animals. My banner is made from my pied with my logo over the top. I love it when people that have never seen a pied ask if it's a real snake.


Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

Keep in mind as well, that the people that would actually see this thread and the picture you're asking about is a TINY TINY fraction of the snake owners and photographers out there. Just because no one here would recognize that picture wouldn't mean it doesn't belong to someone.

The ONLY way to use someone else's picture is to KNOW who it belongs to and receive their written consent to do so...or buy the rights to a picture off a stock photo website.

I'm glad you realize this and are not going to use it. I'm just reiterating the facts a bit because there are a LOT of people out there who think so little of using other people's work.

EDIT for PS: I also moved this to the Business Talk forum. It's not a good idea to use the wrong forum just to try and increase the views on a particular thread.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Keep in mind as well, that the people that would actually see this thread and the picture you're asking about is a TINY TINY fraction of the snake owners and photographers out there. Just because no one here would recognize that picture wouldn't mean it doesn't belong to someone.

The ONLY way to use someone else's picture is to KNOW who it belongs to and receive their written consent to do so...or buy the rights to a picture off a stock photo website.

I'm glad you realize this and are not going to use it. I'm just reiterating the facts a bit because there are a LOT of people out there who think so little of using other people's work.




EDIT for PS: I also moved this to the Business Talk forum. It's not a good idea to use the wrong forum just to try and increase the views on a particular thread.

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I apologize for that, just wanted to see if it was someones pic on here, and I figured more people would look on this before business talk. again I apologize

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

Not to mention I wouldn't use a picture of a snake you do not currently keep or breed. By putting that image on your website you are advertising you work with that species. If you truly like that species and want to breed them, wait until you get your own, and THEN use your own images.

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Yes and No, car dealerships put cars they would never get on their site, to add some eye candy. there is nothing wrong about it.

For the most part pictures on the net are fine to use on your site along as they are not copy written.

always remember you are a small fish and nobody will go after you for infringement, however always keep this in the back of your head. look what happened to YouTube, Google, FaceBook, they all started small and grown into multi billion companies. if there was a picture on the site that was from someone else then I would expect a law suite because it would be worth it now.

so to protect you I would go to your local zoo or reptile store and ask them if you can take some pictures of there animals to put on your site, tell them you will put a link to there store/zoo for credits.

Here is something I have done so far, dont know what I think of it though.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...1/untitled.jpg

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Originally Posted by SteelTownGuido

For the most part pictures on the net are fine to use on your site along as they are not copy written.

always remember you are a small fish and nobody will go after you for infringement,

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You are very wrong in these assumptions. If you didn't take the picture and you do not have permission from the person who owns the picture, then you are stealing. Most websites have copy write language, but their pics may not have a logo or a copy write mark.

After you have spent hours and hours trying to get the right picture with the right background, lighting and pose on a live animal you may understand that a picture is a personal expression and possession of the person who took it. If you do not have permission to use it, then you are stealing someone else's work.

As for infringement, start using a name brand on your site and see how fast the legal department of the company who owns the trademark comes after you. Small fish or not, companies will vigirously defend their trademarks.

Stealing is stealing just because someone doesn't notice doesn't make it right.

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Originally Posted by DC Reptiles

Here is something I have done so far, dont know what I think of it though.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...1/untitled.jpg

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I like it!

I like the pied one so much better

i like the piebald pic n logo

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Originally Posted by SteelTownGuido

Yes and No, car dealerships put cars they would never get on their site, to add some eye candy. there is nothing wrong about it.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with using a picture of an animal you don't actually own (so long as you own rights to the picture itself) however, it should at least be a species and morph you are currently working with. It can make a BAD first impression if someone comes to your site expecting to be able to find green tree pythons or a mystic potion ball python because you have one in your logo...only to find out nothing of the sort is available.

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Originally Posted by SteelTownGuido

For the most part pictures on the net are fine to use on your site along as they are not copy written.

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This is an attitude about stealing internet pictures that gets to me every time I see it. Just because a picture doesn't carry a specific watermark does NOT mean it's up for grabs to anyone who wishes to use it.

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Originally Posted by SteelTownGuido

always remember you are a small fish and nobody will go after you for infringement, ...

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That's a dangerous assumption to make. Steal the wrong person's picture and they won't care how big your wallet is, they will go after you hard just on principle. Seen it happen many, many times for many different reasons. "Small fish" are absolutely not exempt from legal action just because there may be no money to fish out of that pond.

Also...and far more important...is your REPUTATION is on the line. Your logo is your face to the public. One of the fastest ways to trash your reputation before even getting out of the starting gate is to get called out in public for using someone else's picture without their permission. That can and will happen fast and furious in the Internet shark tank. Take some time to cruise through threads on the BOI if you doubt that.

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Originally Posted by SteelTownGuido

Yes and No, car dealerships put cars they would never get on their site, to add some eye candy. there is nothing wrong about it.

For the most part pictures on the net are fine to use on your site along as they are not copy written.

always remember you are a small fish and nobody will go after you for infringement, however always keep this in the back of your head. look what happened to YouTube, Google, FaceBook, they all started small and grown into multi billion companies. if there was a picture on the site that was from someone else then I would expect a law suite because it would be worth it now.

so to protect you I would go to your local zoo or reptile store and ask them if you can take some pictures of there animals to put on your site, tell them you will put a link to there store/zoo for credits.

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Car dealerships are a lot different than a business that works with and sells animals. Different makes and models of cars can easily be ordered and sold. If they don't have what you want, they could probably get one in for you, easily.

To the OP: When I go to a snake breeder's website, I don't want eye candy. I want to see what they CURRENTLY work with, the projects they are CURRENTLY working on, and what they CURRENTLY have available. Mention on your site that eventually you will be working with a different species you don't currently own, that's fine, but don't put it up there just for eye candy. If I were to go to your site, see a GTP picture, my first thought would be, "He/she works with these. I wonder if they have any available." Then I'd be very disappointed to find out you DON'T work with them right now. You're sending the wrong message to your customers that way.

And about using pictures that are not water marked or copy written....I have tons of pictures out there in cyber space that have no watermarks (going to begin doing that) or copy writes. They are just pictures I took. If I were to stumble upon a website (or anything for that matter) that was using one of my pictures, you can bet your behind that I'd go after that person for using my pictures!!! I don't care how small of a fish you are. Stealing is stealing.

out of respect for whomevers picture that was I deleted it. Thank you for everyones responses

It depends where you live, but if someone creates something (or takes a photo) they do not need to go through some legal process to copyright it as some of you imply - it is copyright to them immediately because they made it. Doesn't need a watermark or a piece of legal paper, it is rightfully theirs and not yours. The copyright only changes if they sell the rights or give permission etc.

While the chances are very slim you will be caught using someone else's work, it's really bad practice because it's disrespectful to the owner and you'll get in the habit of freeloading intellectual property. This is one of the reasons professional illustrators and photographers get "What?! But I could get it on google images for free!!" so much... the internet has devalued their work.

Anyways end rant! Phew. Something that really rustles my jimmies :P I see you did decide to change it and that's great! For your pie bald picture, I'd get the focus right on the face, but it's a nice photo. Be proud :)

Thanks I"m toying around with a bunch of photos right now, its not going to be that one but I figured I"ll change it to the one its going to be when I have the right pic.

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Originally Posted by Sugarbone

It depends where you live, but if someone creates something (or takes a photo) they do not need to go through some legal process to copyright it as some of you imply - it is copyright to them immediately because they made it. Doesn't need a watermark or a piece of legal paper, it is rightfully theirs and not yours. The copyright only changes if they sell the rights or give permission etc.

While the chances are very slim you will be caught using someone else's work, it's really bad practice because it's disrespectful to the owner and you'll get in the habit of freeloading intellectual property. This is one of the reasons professional illustrators and photographers get "What?! But I could get it on google images for free!!" so much... the internet has devalued their work.

Anyways end rant! Phew. Something that really rustles my jimmies :P I see you did decide to change it and that's great! For your pie bald picture, I'd get the focus right on the face, but it's a nice photo. Be proud :)

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