What's happening in Norway?

A large explosion hit Norwegian government buildings.

A man dressed as a police officer opens fire at a youth camp.

I know nothing about any particular group prone to violence that has any specific issues with Norway..

The cause of the blast is still unknown :\

I don't think anyplace is immune anymore. :(

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The blast comes as Norway grapples with a homegrown terror plot linked to al-Qaida. Two suspects are in jail awaiting charges.

Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centered on statements that Mullah Krekar — the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam — made to various news media, including American network NBC.

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The man dressed as a police officer has been cought and is being questiond. He is reported to be tall,blond, nordic and speaking norwegian. 10 people found dead and a unknown number injured. the youth camp consists of people between 15 and 25 years of age.
As for the bombing, 7 killed and a unknown number injured.
Armed police are walking the streets of oslo and most stores and pubs are closed. This is due to a request from police, wich said they had inuff to handel with out the normal weekend problems. This is totally surreal, i never thought this could happen here:mad:

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Originally Posted by Morbo

This is totally surreal, i never thought this could happen here:mad:

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Originally Posted by JLC

I don't think anyplace is immune anymore. :(

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We didn't think 9-11 would happen in the USA, but it did. Like Judy said: anyplace is not immune anymore. Sad thing, it's only going to get worst. :(

Just so terrible.

I wouldn't be surprised if this had something to do with how the EU is trying to solve some countries debt crisis. The way people riot and protest even though its clear that if the countries don't do something they'll go bankrupt makes it easy to believe some extremist group could do this.

The guy is apparently some right-wing facist nutjob. There's already 85 found dead on that island.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

The guy is apparently some right-wing facist nutjob. There's already 85 found dead on that island.

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No it turns out he is a left wing Socialist (Nazi affiliate) radical.
National Socialist Party (Nazi)

Bottom line is he's crazy, and should be removed from civilization on a permanent basis...

I think when you're that far gone, terms like "right wing" and "left wing" mean nothing. And terms like "insane" and "crazy" are ways to excuse the behavior...in my opinion. This man is just plain evil.

According to national news he was a self professed Nazi type. The death toll at one time was reported as high as 96 and today as low as 70 something. He does not deny guilt, but insists on a public trial. I heard that if convicted he will get 20 years max...unless they extend his sentence in twenty years for five more. Can someone from Norway confirm that your law only allows for that kind of sentence. I don't really trust the news.

Max sentence is 21 years here, but he can Get forvaring " containment" that mens that after 21 years he can Get parole if the court sees him fit, if not he gets give more years, this can go on until he is releast or dies.
As of last year we past a law that crimes against humanity has a max sentence of 30 years + contaienment. Sentences over 15 years are seldom given.
Anders Bering Breivik vil never be a freeman again.
And he vil probably be in solitary for the rest of his life. Due to the fact that he will not be safe among other inmates.

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Originally Posted by Morbo

Max sentence is 21 years here, but he can Get forvaring " containment" that mens that after 21 years he can Get parole if the court sees him fit, if not he gets give more years, this can go on until he is releast or dies.

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what. the!??!

Seriously? 21 years?.....

That's so ... stupid!

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Originally Posted by CatandDiallo

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what. the!??!

Seriously? 21 years?.....

That's so ... stupid!

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Not necessarily. Do you happen to know what the crime rate is over there?

Or are you basing your accusation of stupidity on your own bias, possible ignorance, and familiarity with crime that may not exist there? Because if that's the case, you may want to actually pause and think before inserting the old hoof in the old piehole.

I'm sorry, but this man shot and killed 70-something people. Low crime rate or not, 21 years should not be an option for this man.

No need to be so blatantly rude, by the way.

And calling another country's way of dealing with their crime is what? Polite?

It's just a surprise and a little bit of an outrage to hear that this man who shot and killed 70-some odd people (I'm not up-to-date on the death toll yet) can walk away with a sentencing of 21 years.

I didn't attack you or direct anything towards you, so yes, your reply to me was very off-putting and I guess I just didn't appreciate it.

And yet you are comfortable calling an entire population with a society thousands of years older than ours stupid.

Not a chance of non-appreciation or being off-putting to them, eh?

It's nothing personal, stupidity knows no national boundaries.

This is proven.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

And yet you are comfortable calling an entire population with a society thousands of years older than ours stupid.

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Thanks for putting words in my mouth! It's always fun when people do that.
Did I call the people of Norway stupid? No.
Did I call the police, or judges, or anyone stupid? No.
I said that the sentencing is stupid.

Thanks, though!

I'm done with arguing with you. I like to be pleasant to people, to make this world a tiny bit more of a nicer place to live in. I won't spend time conversing or arguing with people who won't do the same.

I just want to point out that the limit is NOT exactly 21 years. It's "21 years plus containment"...which means at the end of 21 years, they reevaluate and decide whether or not to hold him longer. That's not the same thing at all as assuming he'll automatically be let go after a score of years.

You used the word stupid.

Truth hurts.

If it's not what you meant to say, you shouldn't have said it.

Thinking before speaking/writing is a handy thing for not looking stupid.

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Originally Posted by JLC

I just want to point out that the limit is NOT exactly 21 years. It's "21 years plus containment"...which means at the end of 21 years, they reevaluate and decide whether or not to hold him longer. That's not the same thing at all as assuming he'll automatically be let go after a score of years.

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Thank you for explaining it further for me!

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Originally Posted by wilomn

You used the word stupid.

Truth hurts.

If it's not what you meant to say, you shouldn't have said it.

Thinking before speaking/writing is a handy thing for not looking stupid.

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Sometimes thinking twice is better than thinking once. Makes me wonder about thinking thrice, but that's a whole lot of effort.

However, what you meant may not have been what I thought you meant. Written doesn't always convey the same as spoken.

Stupid is a strong word. It has a strong meaning. However again, that is my take on that word which may not be universal; isn't if truth be told. My irritation at word usage, without thought enough on my part to justify that irritation, shouldn't clutter threads. It's no secret that not everyone thinks as I do nor do they hold the same meanings for words as I. I'm fairly literal as a rule.

So, while I don't think calling a system of justice which neither of us, I'm assuming on your part, have any personal knowledge of, stupid is not the best choice of words, it may have been for you. Or maybe you meant something less, some degree of intelligence lacking that is not really stupid so much as incredulous or perhaps foolish. Don't know, doesn't really matter.

Personally I think the guy should be eliminated. Doubtless some will think that stupid or foolish or ignorant. Doubtless some won't. Don't know, doesn't really matter.

Having given the exchange here a second perusal, I just wanted to clear that up.