I'm pretty sure she's egg bound????

She's only 7 days over due but I've never seen anything like this. I've read every article and spoke to several breeders that are saying to "STOP WORRYING" but this doesn't look right. My question is would you be worrying? Have any of you had snakes look like this before? She's in a rack on aspen with sphagnum moss dampened a little. Her temps on the hot side were bumped up to 90 and hang around 80 on the cool side right now usually it's a few degrees less but I bumped it up on the advise from others. I haven't noticed her looking uncomfortable or restless but honestly I wouldn't really know if she is. Any advise is appreciated at this point because I am freaking out a little.

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Give her a couple of days, have you checked her vent?
In the unfortunate event that she is, you can either take her to the vet, or you can aspirate some of the contents of the egg, so that she can pass it.

The eggs are not close enough to her vent to be causing anything to happen there so it still looks good. I have no problems aspirating or maybe I will take her to my vet so my my vet can assist me. I just don't want to jump the gun and go to soon but I don't want to wait to long either. I've soaked her the past two nights not sure if that will help or hurt her in the long run.

She could be laying as we type lol, I say you'll have eggs within 48 hrs :)

Still no eggs :(

she may wait till night or when there less activity arond her to lay I know my one female didn't lay until I left her alone and left town the next morning I getting a call about eggs when i was up with the GF in NJ lol.. so let her be and only loook in in the morning and evening thne just a quick peek if poosible wwithout opening the tub to let her feel safe. you may be freaking her out as she wants to be private and do her work alone.

She looks like a good healthy gravid girl. Generally egg binding doesn't happen often with females at least 2 years old and of good weight. She's not too overdue so I don't think you should start freaking out yet. Give her some good humidity in her tub, make sure it's warm enough and Give her peice and quiet.


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Could this be the fabled 'Egg-puff-butt'? I believe that is the official term on this site.

She does look like it will be any time now. Please keep us up to date on her. Hope all goes well for you and the mama!

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She looks like a good healthy gravid girl. Generally egg binding doesn't happen often with females at least 2 years old and of good weight. She's not too overdue so I don't think you should start freaking out yet. Give her some good humidity in her tub, make sure it's warm enough and Give her peice and quiet.


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I have had egg binding happen to three year old girls with good weight. Both times it happened, it was the last egg that became bound. All the others came out fine. I am not saying that this is what is happening in the OP's case, but I just wanted to state that I do not believe that age and size has anything to do with egg binding.

In my opinion, that is beyond egg butt puff.... It is usually not so mottled at the base.

She looks bound to me, I'd get her to a qualified vet. It looks like she started to lay and the one egg is bound and the others are piled up behind it.

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In my opinion, that is beyond egg butt puff.... It is usually not so mottled at the base.

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Agreed. That also looks to be too far up from the vent to be her preparing the first egg for deposition.

She just passed so urates or something creamy looking does this mean anything?

A vet check won't do any harm. It does look a little unusual to me.

A gravid snake about to lay should be lying on the heat source in a perfect coil when she isn't moving around restlessly and twisting her body to move the eggs into position. If she's not doing that, I'd do the vet. If she is, then I would spray her bin down good to spike the humidity, and leave her alone completely for 48 hours. (No peeking).

My snakes all prefer to lay when undisturbed--I usually find eggs after I've left them alone for over a day.

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She just passed so urates or something creamy looking does this mean anything?

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That sounds like the "waxy" substance that many females will pass just prior to egg laying. However, it may also be her attempt at lubricating to get that egg out. I personally would go ahead and aspirate about 20-25 mLs out of that egg if she hasn't passed it in the next 48 hours. More than likely you will lose the egg, but you will still have the female (alive). I have witnessed an aspirated egg make it through incubation to hatching.

Good luck and keep us updated.

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That sounds like the "waxy" substance that many females will pass just prior to egg laying. However, it may also be her attempt at lubricating to get that egg out. I personally would go ahead and aspirate about 20-25 mLs out of that egg if she hasn't passed it in the next 48 hours. More than likely you will lose the egg, but you will still have the female (alive). I have witnessed an aspirated egg make it through incubation to hatching.

Good luck and keep us updated.

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A little off topic, but how does one aspirate an egg? I know the general concept, but would like to see how it's actually done...Just curious.

Thanks!

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A little off topic, but how does one aspirate an egg? I know the general concept, but would like to see how it's actually done...Just curious.

Thanks!

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A needle is inserted into the egg, and the contents are aspirated out, making the egg smaller and easier for the female to pass. If the egg is not located at the vent, then the needle is inserted through the abdomen of the snake to aspirate the contents of the egg.

Any update? Did she lay and/or did you take her to the vet? Poor thing, that looks painful... :(