what is this

i deal with her a lot and she has this one bp that she dont know what it is or what the parents are of it. she thinks it might be a black pastel gstripe but cant find any good pics of one to compare it too. can someone give some info on it. http://home.comcast.net/~mickeysnigh...21-09%20lg.jpg

It's a beautiful snake

yes it is just need to find out what it is i figured put it on here maybe some1 could say

she has no history on the animal?

It looks similar to the cinnamon pastel genetic stripe that I found on Exotics by Nature's site.

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/blog/?p=22

Breeding would give her a clearer picture of what it might truly be.

Edit: It seems the snake in the link above was miss labeled because the same snake shows up on World of Ball Pythons as just a cinnamon genetic stripe. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...enetic-stripe/

http://home.comcast.net/~mickeysnigh...ll/Ade/Ade.htm this is the info that is on her website

she said hers is much darker as those are not updated pics of him and has faint patterns in sides this is why she thinks its a black pastel g stripe any1 know of these

http://home.comcast.net/~mickeysnigh...-6-11%20lg.jpg
another picture

Super cool looking snake nonetheless! Good luck on pinpointing the genes..

So, if she has no idea what is in it, where did it come from ? She didn't think to ask the person who had it before her to ask what it's mother or father might have been ?

That seems pretty odd to me. I can see wanting a snake that looked so odd, but I'd still ask what it's parents were. Even if the person who had it didn't know what to call it's parents {which is a stretch} at least they could describe what they looked like.

The website says it was supposed to be bred in 2009, so what babies did it produce ? You wouldn't see any G-stripes since they are recessive, but you'd know if it produced black pastels.

Gale

this looks like a very odd g-stripe...

by that head i wouldnt guess cinnamonX, cinnamonsX's have funny noses... or so i have noticed.

black pastel X idk but breeding is the only way to determine the genes if (dont know how its possible) the owner has no previous info about its origins.,

ill take it and find out though. :)

Something stinks around here....

You don't aquire a snake like that without knowing 1.) what it is and 2.) what the parents were...

Unless of course you came about it uh.... :8:

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Originally Posted by Kinra

It looks similar to the cinnamon pastel genetic stripe that I found on Exotics by Nature's site.

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/blog/?p=22

Breeding would give her a clearer picture of what it might truly be.

Edit: It seems the snake in the link above was miss labeled because the same snake shows up on World of Ball Pythons as just a cinnamon genetic stripe. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...enetic-stripe/

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Cinnamons are called Cinnamon Pastels by some people as they were originally called Cinnamon Pastels

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Something stinks around here....

You don't aquire a snake like that without knowing 1.) what it is and 2.) what the parents were...

Unless of course you came about it uh.... :8:

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Agreed. Not to say the OP is lying, but you don't get,buy,trade ect a snake like that and not know what it is.

she got it from a shipment from africa it had 2 of them in the shipment that looked like it and some1 else got the other and she grabbed that one so we arent sure what it is or what it came from but she will know by the end of the year as it has locked several times with a female thank you for all the answers.

Think rdr has something like that just called patternless.

but its not patternless if you look at good enough you can still see the pattern

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she got it from a shipment from africa

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Thats all we need to know to tell you we cannot ID that snake, since it can be something completely new. Breeding is the only way.

I wouldn't bet on a cinny gstripe tho coming out of africa. Not impossible but unlikely.

Most likely just a g stripe that is going opaque. My guess is it will shed shortly here.

I'm with OWAL on this one.
If it's from Africa, it's probably something COMPLETELY new.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

Thats all we need to know to tell you we cannot ID that snake, since it can be something completely new. Breeding is the only way.

I wouldn't bet on a cinny gstripe tho coming out of africa. Not impossible but unlikely.

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Well considering Noah lives in Africa then why would you assume that a Cinny G-Stripe couldn't be imported from there? You would for sure be mistaken. Not to mention that the farmers in Africa are on to the morph game now and are doing their own Ball Python art projects. They breed em there and go threw the hatchlings before sending em off across the deep blue. Anything "Special" looking they now keep for them selves to breed. They see how much money is being made now and want their fare share of the pie.

So I would not hold onto your money for the bet and I would put it all on Africa.

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Well considering Noah lives in Africa then why would you assume that a Cinny G-Stripe couldn't be imported from there? You would for sure be mistaken. Not to mention that the farmers in Africa are on to the morph game now and are doing their own Ball Python art projects. They breed em there and go threw the hatchlings before sending em off across the deep blue. Anything "Special" looking they now keep for them selves to breed. They see how much money is being made now and want their fare share of the pie.

So I would not hold onto your money for the bet and I would put it all on Africa.

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Yes and they send 1000+ dollar animal over here with no info or anything, which in turn makes it worth a lot less money. I think most people would take to time to write on a box with a sharpie for some more money. Again, not impossible but unlikely. The facts still don't change, we can't ID that snake.

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Yes and they send 1000+ dollar animal over here with no info or anything, which in turn makes it worth a lot less money. I think most people would take to time to write on a box with a sharpie for some more money. Again, not impossible but unlikely. The facts still don't change, we can't ID that snake.

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Exactly...

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Originally Posted by twistedtails

Most likely just a g stripe that is going opaque. My guess is it will shed shortly here.

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well it is not shedding that is his natural colors i have seen this snake in person and it is beautiful in person

My best guess is a genetic stripe. I've gotten them from Africa before and 2 years ago got one that was fairly dark come in. Granted not as dark as that one but still darker then what you normally see. Could it be something new sure but we won't know anything more till it's been bred to a few different things and proven to be or not to be. That is the question.

well i can say right now she has him with 5 different normal females just to see if he is a co-dom,dom,or recessive we are hopeing he isnt a recessive will post pics of babies when they come out