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  • 07-18-2011, 12:11 PM
    Orlandoflor
    There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    well as some if you know and you can remember i put that some one broke into my garage of what i think was the intention to steal my snakes but i was not certain. just last night they stole 1.4.16+ rats from me that i had from my back yard. i called the cops and they said that they should be at my place in a while i called around 1:40 waited until 3:30+ cant remember and i fell asleep. but they did not come! so what should i do i just woke up late from staying up and is currently 9:10. so what should i do thanks
  • 07-18-2011, 12:16 PM
    ed4281
    If you called the police and they never showed, you need to call them again. That is unacceptable someone came onto your property and stole your animals, even if it is just feeders.

    For the first time I realize I'm glad I live in a state where I could shoot someone for breaking into my place.
  • 07-18-2011, 12:24 PM
    TheWinWizard
    I would definitely call them again.
  • 07-18-2011, 12:35 PM
    Homegrownscales
    Definitely call again. And again and again if needed.


    Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com
  • 07-18-2011, 12:43 PM
    Orlandoflor
    well right after i wrote that things above i went looking for the security guard that some times is at the gated community im in and on my way back the cops were right behind me and yeah i talked to them. and they said becasue the rats were of a little value that they cant do much about it. and if they ever cought him that all they would get is a oh dam i fogot what they said they would get but all i know is not a serios charge.
  • 07-18-2011, 12:51 PM
    $Hakeem$
    Well some people say "If the mountain dont come to you,you must go to the moutnain" (i think its like that),ill go to the cops office,cuz it isnt about the value,THEY ENTERED AND STEAL YOUR PETS!!!!!So if they cant do nothing with the steal thing,theyll have to do soimething cuz they invaded youre property.i think right?
  • 07-18-2011, 12:56 PM
    Simple Man
    Only a handful of my closest friends and family know about my setup. I don't meet or show anyone my house or operation. Unfortunately some people want what you have and they don't want to work for it. I also carry concealed and have home defense weapons. I'd be alerted to a cricket farting in my house thanks to my dog and I'd take over from there. I'm sorry to hear they blew you off but sometimes the best route is taking care of your own and making sure that you don't tell people about what you have in the first place. You know they are coming for you snakes from the sounds of it. I'd be proactive and figure something out so you don't have to post about how they stole those. Sucks to hear about, good luck! Just my 2 pennies....

    Regards,

    B
  • 07-18-2011, 12:58 PM
    llovelace
    And who's to say what the value of the rats were! What if they were show rats?
    And you live in a gated community, and have a problem with break ins?!

    I suggest a guard dog, preferably an 80lb pit bull, whoever it is deserves to have his butt chewed up. Just be sure to post guard dog signs
  • 07-18-2011, 01:03 PM
    llovelace
    If you start filing reports of theft, something will get done. I hope you filed a report
  • 07-18-2011, 01:11 PM
    Tatt2Python
    set a trap for them like a bear trap ,,,then next time they deside to come to get ur [stuff] u will have them caught or someone will be in a lot of pain LMFAO
  • 07-18-2011, 01:13 PM
    FINGAZZ
    i would get a security system instald.or find one used for a decent price and set it up yourself.also invest in a pitbull,rott,something that will have fun with a theif.lol.also if you know how they are breaking in try to bomb proof your shed,gerage,etc.and dont forget if you dont have it posted.BEWARE OF DOG,GUARD DOG ON DUTY,NO TRSPASSING SIGNS.LASTLY TELL THOSE RENT A COPS IN YOUR GATED PLACE to do there job.thats what they get paid for isnt it.
  • 07-18-2011, 01:31 PM
    Homegrownscales
    I agree with simple man I very rarely have strangers over and I protect against things happening. Even if whatever they stole is completely worthless they still stole from you. Keep feeders inside so they don't have the hint of things like that inside. It honestly sounds like someone who knows you and wants what you have. It's your right to protect yourself.


    Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com
  • 07-18-2011, 01:33 PM
    Orlandoflor
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FINGAZZ View Post
    i would get a security system instald.or find one used for a decent price and set it up yourself.also invest in a pitbull,rott,something that will have fun with a theif.lol.also if you know how they are breaking in try to bomb proof your shed,gerage,etc.and dont forget if you dont have it posted.BEWARE OF DOG,GUARD DOG ON DUTY,NO TRSPASSING SIGNS.LASTLY TELL THOSE RENT A COPS IN YOUR GATED PLACE to do there job.thats what they get paid for isnt it.

    yeah i know they should do there job. the only reason i know some one came in is that our front door neighbor pit bull barked and woke him up and he told us. and i have never heard this dog bark before unless some one is walking in the sidewalk next to his house. he woke up and saw some one jumping over my fence. bad thing is that he was not home when the cops came this mourning. i would love to get a big dog i wanted one since long ago but my family wont get one all we have is little yorkie that would rather play with anyone.
  • 07-18-2011, 01:38 PM
    mpkeelee
    i would put a few NO TRESPASSING signs up cuz if they do then they can be arrested regardless of what they do once on your property. for about 260 bucks you can get a DVR surveillance system with 4 cameras to cover all sides of your house. if possible you may want to move everything to another residence if possible until things cool off. also, take a look at the 2nd Amendment and your states laws. i know in MA we have laws that protect us if we have to do something while protecting ourselves or whats ours.
  • 07-18-2011, 01:38 PM
    Orlandoflor
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegrownscales View Post
    I agree with simple man I very rarely have strangers over and I protect against things happening. Even if whatever they stole is completely worthless they still stole from you. Keep feeders inside so they don't have the hint of things like that inside. It honestly sounds like someone who knows you and wants what you have. It's your right to protect yourself.


    Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

    im pretty sure its the same person that stole my cousin snakes last December. because my cousin knew this person for two years and trusted him then 2 days after he saw my cousins snakes they were stolen. i also know its him becasue when my neighbor saw him i guess he was parked in front of his place and heard him making an exuse to someone i think his girlfrind or something saying that he was picking up some baseball stuff yeah right. and the guy who me and my cousin think stole my cousin snakles works at this baseball place teaching kids to play.
  • 07-18-2011, 01:51 PM
    adamjeffery
    obviously you said something to someone about your snakes. say something to the same people about you buying a new 12 guage shotgun....
    adam jeffery
  • 07-18-2011, 01:58 PM
    cmz1234
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    If you called the police and they never showed, you need to call them again. That is unacceptable someone came onto your property and stole your animals, even if it is just feeders.

    For the first time I realize I'm glad I live in a state where I could shoot someone for breaking into my place.

    Ain't that the TRUTH!!! I got a 12 gauge and 2 rifles in my room and I know how to use them. :yes:
  • 07-18-2011, 02:08 PM
    tcutting
    i suggest a lot of red bull and airsoft... and/or video surveillance. i this case its better to catch them then get revenge, as much as a shotgun (aka a fecalator) would set them straight its not worth the risk...

    But 2012 is coming and zombies will be here soon so if you get a shotgun go with an auto shotty. if left 4 dead taught me anything those are the best for "crowd Control"
  • 07-18-2011, 02:41 PM
    llovelace
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Orlandoflor View Post
    im pretty sure its the same person that stole my cousin snakes last December. because my cousin knew this person for two years and trusted him then 2 days after he saw my cousins snakes they were stolen. i also know its him becasue when my neighbor saw him i guess he was parked in front of his place and heard him making an exuse to someone i think his girlfrind or something saying that he was picking up some baseball stuff yeah right. and the guy who me and my cousin think stole my cousin snakles works at this baseball place teaching kids to play.

    I told you in your original post, that it wasn't random, that it was someone who knew you or your cousin.
  • 07-18-2011, 02:45 PM
    Orlandoflor
    yeah i know who it is but with out proof i can not bust him and it is the same person who stole his snakes and im 99% sure on who it is.
  • 07-18-2011, 02:55 PM
    Skittles1101
    As much as it sucks, the value is a huge difference. Working in a police station I get calls all the time of little things getting taken off the yard...not the house, the yard. Unfortunately for things like mailboxes, yard ornaments, plants, etc I generally just log it into the computer so we have it on file, then provide something called "extra patrols" for the night shift, meaning and officer will drive around the area a few times throughout the night and stop anyone suspicious. There is a huge difference between someone coming into your yard and taking something that was not secured and breaking into your house and taking something. Trespassing is only trespassing if it is posted. I suggest posting a no trespassing sign in your yard somewhere, that way if anyone does try this again they can add on a trespassing charge. Also, in MA anything over $250 is a felony, anything below that is just a misdemeanor. There are quite a few things that go into the law and it sucks. As far as taking so long to respond, that sucks too but I have had to delay responses to lower priority calls because of higher priority calls going on at the same time. Depending on how large your dept is that may have been the case. We have to prioritize unfortunately this is not a first come first serve thing. I definitely would have called back by 3:30 though, and I personally call people back and tell them about a delayed response if I am going to delay dispatching, and even give them the option of coming into the station and filing the report with the desk officer. But, not all departments are the same. It's too bad your rats were stolen, I'd definitely check the security of your house and adjust as needed. Deadbolts are very hard to get through, and buy this sign!
    http://i51.tinypic.com/23lxxly.jpg

    Anyways, sorry for rambling, I know it's easy for people to go off on how things aren't fair and a crime is a crime, but that's just not the case. I hope it doesn't happen again!!
  • 07-18-2011, 02:56 PM
    llovelace
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Orlandoflor View Post
    yeah i know who it is but with out proof i can not bust him and it is the same person who stole his snakes and im 99% sure on who it is.

    motion activated spy camera, check out ebay, a picture(s) is worth a thousand words when it comes to prosecuting.
  • 07-18-2011, 03:03 PM
    monk90222
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    I agree with what everyone said. I would watch out for cragislist ads in your area trying to move your cousins snakes and your rats...

    I NEVER let anyone in to my house to see my collection. I also NEVER let anyone come to my house to pick up a purchase. I'll meet them somewhere. Some people don't want to put in the work it takes and just steal to get to they want.

    Put up signs, install cameras and maybe even a security system.
  • 07-18-2011, 03:08 PM
    Cendalla
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamjeffery View Post
    obviously you said something to someone about your snakes. say something to the same people about you buying a new 12 guage shotgun....
    adam jeffery

    Not sure if it was mentioned or not but guns are a big item to steal too. That could just add more incentive.
  • 07-18-2011, 03:18 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Maybe he stole the rats to feed the stolen snakes. >_>

    Security cameras--worth every penny. Those yard lights that are motion-activated are also helpful.
  • 07-18-2011, 03:34 PM
    SteveFrench
    What i would do, is from now on keep everything in your house and lock all doors and windows. Not just because it will be harder to steal, but because it will change the charge. if those rats were taken out of your house it would be break and enter, instead of trespassing or theft.

    either way, good luck
  • 07-18-2011, 03:46 PM
    Orlandoflor
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222 View Post
    I agree with what everyone said. I would watch out for cragislist ads in your area trying to move your cousins snakes and your rats...

    I NEVER let anyone in to my house to see my collection. I also NEVER let anyone come to my house to pick up a purchase. I'll meet them somewhere. Some people don't want to put in the work it takes and just steal to get to they want.

    Put up signs, install cameras and maybe even a security system.

    my cousin snakes were stolen last december and have been sold already. my cousin took a few pics. and as you know people when they get a new one they show it off well i saw a person who had one of his snakes in fuana. and then i talked to someone that knew this guy but hates him now too. but they told me people she know bought a coupple of snake from him and when she showed me and my cousin the pics he compared them to his pics and they are the same. and i know he got rid of them already.
  • 07-18-2011, 04:19 PM
    Rat160
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simple Man View Post
    Only a handful of my closest friends and family know about my setup. I don't meet or show anyone my house or operation. Unfortunately some people want what you have and they don't want to work for it. I also carry concealed and have home defense weapons. I'd be alerted to a cricket farting in my house thanks to my dog and I'd take over from there. I'm sorry to hear they blew you off but sometimes the best route is taking care of your own and making sure that you don't tell people about what you have in the first place. You know they are coming for you snakes from the sounds of it. I'd be proactive and figure something out so you don't have to post about how they stole those. Sucks to hear about, good luck! Just my 2 pennies....

    Regards,

    B

    FYI Simple... In the state of Washington is IS NOT legal to use deadly force to protect property. You can use it to protect life just not property.

    I ran into this awhile ago while I was standing in my doorway (.40 Glock in hand) watching a guy smash out my car window while I was on the phone with the cops.

    While the end result was gratifying (I watched the cop chase the guy down the street, then taze him in the neck) I still will not be reimbursed for my car being jacked up. He broke out a window broke both door handles and bent my drivers door. He plead guilty and got 22 months because he had a huge knife and a bb gun tucked in his pants. They said payment could come after he got out and got a job. Yeah so 3 years from now I might see some money. (SHOULD HAVE STARTED A FIGHT AND SHOT HIM, THAT WAY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY WORD AGAINST WELL.. NO ONES :)

    But just wanted to make sure that everyone checks local state laws before using deadly force. And to the origional poster. Get cameras! Best way to catch someone and prove it.
  • 07-18-2011, 04:35 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    This is why we do not brag about our collections to anyone. Nor do we let people into our homes to see them. Plus, anyone who will not buy locally from a breeder who will not invite you to their house to see the snake in question, is not someone I
    would sell to anyway because this is the exact reason why.

    You really need to go to home depot or Walmart and pick up a couple no trespassing signs. Then the next time he is on your property, you have the right to use force on him. Then have him arrested. Make sure your snakes are inside your house and that your racks have vertical bars installed down the fronts from top to bottom. A hinge with hidden screws at one end and a D ring to pad lock the other end. So the tubs can not be pulled out if you're not home.
  • 07-18-2011, 05:02 PM
    Orlandoflor
    Re: There Getting Coser To My Balls!!! Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    This is why we do not brag about our collections to anyone. Nor do we let people into our homes to see them. Plus, anyone who will not buy locally from a breeder who will not invite you to their house to see the snake in question, is not someone I
    would sell to anyway because this is the exact reason why.

    You really need to go to home depot or Walmart and pick up a couple no trespassing signs. Then the next time he is on your property, you have the right to use force on him. Then have him arrested. Make sure your snakes are inside your house and that your racks have vertical bars installed down the fronts from top to bottom. A hinge with hidden screws at one end and a D ring to pad lock the other end. So the tubs can not be pulled out if you're not home.

    i never bring people in my home and of all my freinds only one has been to my house . and has seen my snakes and i can trust him. and like i said i know who it might be i am 99% sure who it is or that they told some one to do it for them.and if i ever sell something local maybe once or twice a year i go to their place or we meet up somewhere.
  • 07-18-2011, 08:30 PM
    angllady2
    Ok, so if you are 99% sure you know who it is, go to the jerks house and tell him on no uncertain terms if he comes near your property or your animals again, it will be the last time he does anything.

    Let him know you are on to him, scare him if you can. Tell him he got away with it once, but like he-double hockeysticks will he get away with it twice. If you have to, warn him you are prepared to use whatever means necessary to see to it he does not mess with your animals.

    If he gets mad and/or calls police, they can't do diddly to you for talking to the guy. The important thing is to make this scum believe he's pushed you too far this time.

    Gale
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