Here we go again... Is it a Yellow Belly?

I'm not good at picking out Yellow Bellies. Do you think this is one?

He has a slight head spot, some speckling on the belly, yellow/orange flames instead of white/gray, and is just more orange/yellow than others...

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...akes_3_074.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...akes_3_068.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...akes_3_017.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...akes_3_059.jpg

Thanks for looking.

Tricky one but my gut says YB.

Regards,

B

i say normal does not have the so called checkerd pattern on the sides of the belly

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Originally Posted by Orlandoflor

i say normal does not have the so called checkerd pattern on the sides of the belly

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That's not always so obvious. The head spot, flames, and slight checkering lean towards YB. My PYB male doesn't have a ton of checkering either and I've seen some proven YB with almost no checkering. Who knows until you breed though. :)

Regards,

B

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Originally Posted by Simple Man

That's not always so obvious. The head spot, flames, and slight checkering lean towards YB. My PYB male doesn't have a ton of checkering either and I've seen some proven YB with almost no checkering. Who knows until you breed though. :)

Regards,

B

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yeah thats true dont know until you prove it out.

Yeah, I think that's going to be the idea...

We've suspected this guy's mom to be a possible YB from when we first got her. I've never been convinced until I saw her babies. Her clutch was 6 eggs. 1.1 Mojaves, and 1.3 'Normals'.

One of the 0.1 "Normals" looks like his bro, too, and really has a lot more speckling. But, as unproven, I'll have to sell it as a normal... Maybe we'll pick up an older YB male and pair him with the damsel.

The mojos are super bright/vibrant. I guess it all comes down to what we see when breeding her to a YB.

mine has the same belly pattern with lots of dark orange flames but was told shes normal so now she was labeled as my dinker lol but im selling her now though so it can be someone elses dinker
also has similar patterns and speckling haha and dark colors

I'd put my money on normal. I think it would be a waste of time to breed your female to a YB, but that's just me. If she doesn't prove out, then you are stuck with a bunch of extremely inexpensive animals. Male YB's are like $75 right now, and females are $150. So personally if I were going to pair a male to her, it would be a double or triple gene YB male. At least if she didn't prove out the clutch wouldn't be a total loss then.

Hi,

I suck at yellowbellies and can't make my mind up either way. :oops:

I would recommend holding back a male one of the different looking hatchlings and breeding him back to mum to find out one way or another though.


dr del

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Originally Posted by PassionsPythons

I'd put my money on normal. I think it would be a waste of time to breed your female to a YB, but that's just me. If she doesn't prove out, then you are stuck with a bunch of extremely inexpensive animals. Male YB's are like $75 right now, and females are $150. So personally if I were going to pair a male to her, it would be a double or triple gene YB male. At least if she didn't prove out the clutch wouldn't be a total loss then.

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And if she does prove you end up with white snakes that are possible or probably this or that. Keep in mind that one mans inexpensive is another mans affordable. With all the new YB projects going on I don't think you can have enough YB girls. They make everything better. We can't all afford spotnose alibinos and butter womas Matt ;) Good luck whatever you decide to do Clark!

Regards,

B

Well, we're most likely going to breed her to a YB to see if she proves out. We'll see.
I just wanted to bump this thread, too, in the hopes of getting a few more to weigh in...

Thanks all for the replies.

I am going to say no... but if you are seeing similarities on various markers, then as Del said, hold back a son to breed back to mom.

You may get a nice grey headed snake with a yellow dorsal stripe (sorry ivories are NOT white), or you may get something new and interesting. Or a clutch of normal babes that look like both parents.

But I am an incurable optimist when I see similarities between the parents and the offspring.

Bruce

I would say it's not but it sure has some pretty orange in it.
male yb
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/5325f3b0.jpg
Crown on head
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/b5d46166.jpg
Offspring
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/cecacc25.jpg

I say it's a Y-B.

It looks enough like YB that I would be breeding it to a YB. You'll never know until then.

I'm going to say no. That is unless you produced it from an Ivory breeding.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I'm going to say no. That is unless you produced it from an Ivory breeding.

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It does look a lot like a yellow belly to me but these things are always difficult from photos. I fail to understand why yellow bellies are so undervalued given some of the very cool combo morphs they can produce; ivories, the various stripes, pastel y/b's etc-they are also very nice snakes in their own right. I also think that female y/b's are very useful royals to have. I would say keep back a boy to breed to his mother & prove it out one way or another but I would have a reasonably high expectation of an ivory.

Looks like a normal to me.

I would breed a yb or yb combo to her if you can afford one.
I believe she's a flamed up normal.

I wouldn't be able pick out a yb if my life depended on it!:)

its a normal for me. Later Ill post my yb hatchling so you can compare with it

Normal just hatched 2 clutches my self. Was fooled a bit with some that looked just like yours. The center of the belly should be 99 percent white. Just like one of the the pic posted on this thred

Looking at the first post, 2nd pic from the top screams "yellow belly" on the belly alone.

I have to say a normal. IF it is a YB, it is a poor quality one, but a pretty normal. Good luck.