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Fires vs Sulfurs

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  • 07-17-2011, 03:52 PM
    Excelsior Exotics
    Fires vs Sulfurs
    Is there a difference between fires and sulfurs? Do they create the same homozygous morph and are they compatible? I can't seem to find much information on sulfurs. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
    A.C.
  • 07-17-2011, 04:46 PM
    MarkieJ
    Re: Fires vs Sulfurs
    I would liken them to Lesser/Butter, different lines of pretty much the same morph. Both make Black-eyed white snakes with varying degrees of yellow splotching. As of today, I don't think a result of a cross between Fire X Sulfur has been successful/made public.

    Here goes a pic of my Sulfur Mojave:

    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/...e846e7c922.jpg

    Note: this is an exceptional example of the morph (IMO, I may be a little biased). :D
  • 07-17-2011, 04:48 PM
    mainbutter
    From my limited (read: small sample size) memory of seeing super sulfurs and super fires, super sulfurs may tend to have more of that yellow that black-ELs sometimes have.. or maybe not as I've only seen a handful of pics of either.
  • 07-17-2011, 05:38 PM
    Russ Lawson
    There are super sulfurs with less yellow and super fires with more yellow. Mike Wilbanks has a super fire female available now with a lot of yellow. Here's a photo of her. I would say they are probably the same mutation, just different lines.
  • 07-17-2011, 05:49 PM
    mainbutter
    Cool thanks for that ross.
  • 07-17-2011, 08:36 PM
    jluman
    I've hatched multiple animals from both lines, they are the same thing.

    Also, if I remember correctly Sean from Exotics by Nature produced a black-eyed lucy from pastel sulfur x fire, so that really sealed the deal for me.
  • 07-18-2011, 09:02 AM
    Excelsior Exotics
    Re: Fires vs Sulfurs
    Thanks a lot for the info guys. These things can be tricky sometimes. I figured it was similar to the lesser/butter/mojave = blue eyed lucy morph. I really like the yellow blotching and wondered if that was more of a sulfur trait. Now I just have to figure out which one to get.
    A.C.
  • 07-18-2011, 02:37 PM
    muddoc
    Re: Fires vs Sulfurs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jluman View Post
    I've hatched multiple animals from both lines, they are the same thing.

    Also, if I remember correctly Sean from Exotics by Nature produced a black-eyed lucy from pastel sulfur x fire, so that really sealed the deal for me.

    Jeff is correct. Sean did produce a Pastel Super from breeding a Pastel Sulfur to a Fire. So far the creations that I have seen with both mutations appear to be the same as an end result. i.e. a Pastel Fire looks almost identical to a Pastel Sulfur and so forth.

    I myself am hoping that the Super Sulfur will have a greater tendency to produce Supers with more yellow. However, I don't think enough Super Sulfurs have been produced to make a claim like that yet. I mssed on Super SUlfurs last year, and am cooking another clutch this year. Hopefully I can hit one or two.
  • 07-20-2011, 11:44 PM
    Sean : EbN
    Re: Fires vs Sulfurs
    Sorry I'm late guys :)

    Here ya go... Pastel Sulfur (From David Reid) x Fire (From Brandon Boeke)

    http://exoticsbynature.com/sale/ball...10PSFF01/1.jpg

    http://exoticsbynature.com/sale/ball...10PSFF01/2.jpg
  • 07-21-2011, 04:27 AM
    lance
    I was a day from making a similar thread thanks all and great information as usual

    Lance
  • 07-23-2011, 12:46 AM
    EmberBall
    Nice snake Sean.
    With Sulfurs and Fires, I compare them to Lessers and Butters. I have produced two Super Sulfurs, here are their pics. The first one could be a Mojave Super Sulfur, but now I kind of doubt it has any Mojave. The second one is a Spider Super Sulfur possible Mojave.

    Dave

    http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMGP3189-1.jpg

    http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/r...l/IMGP3187.jpg

    http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/r...l/IMGP4431.jpg
  • 07-23-2011, 01:51 AM
    EverEvolvingExotics
    That sulfur mojave is amazing.
  • 07-24-2011, 06:03 PM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    It seems to me as though it might be possible to select for more or less yellow in the super sulfers or fires ... Is anyone going for this?
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