Opinions on this one? Dinker normal maybe?

They are both unique looking, but just wondering if there is something going on with the lighter one. The colour is so light and there is that almost dirty look on the side. Pretty good blushing too.

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very nice snakes it has great blushing and its head is very light too but im no pro so i will leave that part up to them but they both look great

I would definitely dink with that lighter one

can you post more shots of the lighter one, including belly shots

I Don't have anymore.
Oh, here is one more. These aren't my snakes. But I was thinking about maybe picking up the lighter one if it is a female.
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I see, they are nice :)

The lighter one would be worth playing with;)

And check out that light head, ever seen a normal with a light head like that?

looks fire-ish?

Hi,

I'd certainly grab that lighter snake if I saw it in a pet shop on its own.

But looking at the picture the other snake also has patches where the colour looks to be "off" - I'm wondering if it could be a result of something environmental triggering hormone changes in the animals?


dr del

Hmm that is an interesting thought. Apparently she as had them for a year and a half. The larger one is apparently a male, though I question that as it looks huge, and is five feet. The smaller lighter one is apparently a female and is three and a half feet. The male is 3.5 years old and the female 2.5 half, both were bought from a pet store, but apparently are captive bred by a local breeder.

I think i'm going to go and at least have a look at them tomorrow. But I'm not sure, as half of the lighter ones head is dark, maybe stuck shed? And are those darker marks on her sides burns? Or just discoloration? Maybe what the pigment looked like before? Just not sure. The smaller one is a mouse eater, which would explain the smaller size while the larger is on large rats. Both f/t.

Oh, and what kind of environmental conditions could cause pigment change?

Heh,

I wish I knew.

There have been quite a few threads on here about snakes randomly changing colour then slowly turning back in some instances - though I seem to recall they were mostly spiders? :confused:

I'm not saying that is what's happening here but the second one having it too seems unlikely if it isn't something they were exposed to.


dr del

Turns out you were right Dr Del, I asked the seller if she had changed colour at all, and she has. She used to be darker. I think I will pass. I just don't know why it would change colour like that. Could it have something to do with cage lights?

where is the lighter one at? i want it! haha it does look as though the larger one is a female and the smaller one seems like a male but you never know unless you have them probed if the lighter one has a clear belly i deffinately would have got it no second thought

Some people believe the color change is brought on my nutrition issues.

I think knowing the history, I would have hesitated myself. If I had a quarantine area already set up, and the price was right I might have risked the lighter one, but I also would have been prepared for it to darken up with proper care.

Gale

What would a clear belly represent?

Ok so here is what I think is the whole story. The larger one has lost pigment due to rubbing itself on a hide that is admittedly too small when it goes in and out.

The smaller lighter one was always on the lighter side, but has gotten increasingly lighter as it aged.

Any thoughts?

Lots of ball pythons have clear bellies, so that's nothing special.

If the smaller snake has always been light, you are confident in sexing it and it is the sex you want for a good price, go ahead and get it. But I'd still practice quarantine with it.

Gale

I'd grab that lighter one in a heartbeat. The contrasts on that snake are amazing.

I'd take the lighter one. from the pictures it looks kinda fire-y like someone else, but at the very least you'll have a pretty normal :)

i really want the light one lol im jealous of whoevers possession it is in id spend money on it just to show off how gorgeous it is lol i wouldnt care about breeding it haha and atleast im not alone on the fire look to it but if im not mistake dont fires have clear bellies? ive never had a fire but its just what ive noticed on most

I haven't been to see it yet. My problem is that I don't know how to pop yet, so I have no way of confirming if it is a female, and would it be worth having if it is a male? It isn't expensive, but still. I've been looking at photos of fires, and some seem to look like it, while others look way off. I wish I had better pictures.

Also, what are the chances that a five foot ball python could be male? At 3.5 years old? That bigger one is supposedly male, but it looks huge!

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I haven't been to see it yet. My problem is that I don't know how to pop yet, so I have no way of confirming if it is a female, and would it be worth having if it is a male? It isn't expensive, but still. I've been looking at photos of fires, and some seem to look like it, while others look way off. I wish I had better pictures.

Also, what are the chances that a five foot ball python could be male? At 3.5 years old? That bigger one is supposedly male, but it looks huge!

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I would get it either way but it would be a huge bonus if it was a female