New pick ups.can you figure out what they are??

i just picked these guys up yesterday.the owner picked them up on a trade i gues from what i was told.he says one in the first pic is a pastel but i think theres something else going on.the second set of pics is a pastel yellow belly from what he says.i only paid $100 for both $50 per snake.i bought some snakes from him befor so i always get morphs for dirt cheap.he and i cant figure out what they realy are tho.i just had to pick them up.there both males from what he says but ill double check them later today.let me know what you guys think.

pastel or something else??
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pastel yellow belly??
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There both pastels for sure, the second though doesn't look like a yellow belly. i would say pastel jungle. Good deal though

They both look like pastels to me as well. The second one doesn't look like a yellow belly. Yellow bellies usually have a checkering that borders their belly. Yours doesn't have that. He's just a really browned out pastel. The first one doesn't seem to have anything special going on with it. He has some nice blushing. Of course you may see something that doesn't show up on camera well or something. Only way to know if there is something else going on genetically is to breed him and find out.

Both pastels. Great deal for $50 each! :gj:

Congrats :)

wish i knew what they were.so i dont waste time in breeding them.pastels,but what kind?itried looking up pastels and cant find any that look like these two.i have a pastle female but dont know who i should mate her too.my choices are one of these guys or a spider,another kool looking pastel,cinnomon,hmm what to do what to do.lol

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

They both look like pastels to me as well. The second one doesn't look like a yellow belly. Yellow bellies usually have a checkering that borders their belly. Yours doesn't have that. He's just a really browned out pastel. The first one doesn't seem to have anything special going on with it. He has some nice blushing. Of course you may see something that doesn't show up on camera well or something. Only way to know if there is something else going on genetically is to breed him and find out.

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think the second pic one could be a black pastel??

The second one could be, but it's difficult to tell with that lighting. Can you get better shots of it?

Normal pastels come in a great variety of patterns. You could breed it with a spider and go for the bumble bee or another pastel and try for a super pastel.

They are both pastels..nothing more.

The second one is just a browned out one.

Congrats on your new additions!

[QUOTE=Nektu;1598660]The second one could be, but it's difficult to tell with that lighting. Can you get better shots of it?

i think he might be in shed.his eyes look grey so ill wait to see if he sheds what his color is and post new pics up.

I'd say both are pastels. The second is just more browned out than the first. Still, he's got a neat pattern and at just $50 each you got a good deal on them. :gj:

They look like regular pastels to me. If you are going to breed I'd use the first one, the blushing is way nicer and the yellow seems to be holding up better than the second. Good deal for both though :)

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Originally Posted by FINGAZZ

think the second pic one could be a black pastel??

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No black pastels have a completely different look to them.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...3-Black-Pastel

What you have are two regular pastels. The first one is holding his color nicely and has some really nice blushing. I would opt to use him in breeding over the 2nd pastel. After he sheds, he might look a little nicer, but he still appears very browned out.

Agree with regular pastels. Nice deal though.

The giveaway that it is not a pastel yellowbelly is he gave you it for 50 bucks... also the yellowbelly brightens the pastel, search for a few pictures.

My friend said the one in the first pic is a classic jungle pastel.and the other could be yellow belly but have to wait till he sheds to realy see what he looks like.idk.might just sell the second one and keep the first one to play with in another project in the future.

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The giveaway that it is not a pastel yellowbelly is he gave you it for 50 bucks... also the yellowbelly brightens the pastel, search for a few pictures.

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idk about that because i also got a male lesser from him for $200 here is a pics.i also got a 800 gram female albino from him for $250.
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This IS a pastel yellow belly and it does not matter if he is inshed or not his colors do not change.The ones in the pics you have here look like browned out pastels. http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...14-2010001.jpg

First, I'd double check the sex of that albino. Second, I'm sorry but the 2nd pastel is NOT a yellowbelly in the slightest sense. He is an extremely browned out pastel, shed or no shed. I know that it would be really cool if you'd gotten a pastel yellow belly for only $50 but all you got was a browned out pastel. Nothing more. I wouldn't even breed him. If your guy is telling you that might be a yellow belly you just have to wait for him to shed, then your guy knows nothing about yellow bellies. He doesn't have the color or side belly pattern.

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First, I'd double check the sex of that albino. Second, I'm sorry but the 2nd pastel is NOT a yellowbelly in the slightest sense. He is an extremely browned out pastel, shed or no shed. I know that it would be really cool if you'd gotten a pastel yellow belly for only $50 but all you got was a browned out pastel. Nothing more. I wouldn't even breed him. If your guy is telling you that might be a yellow belly you just have to wait for him to shed, then your guy knows nothing about yellow bellies. He doesn't have the color or side belly pattern.

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i agree with you on that. im just going to get rid of the 2nd one keep the first.and the female albino is a female i checked her and another breeder friend checked her.he wanted 350 at the time for her and i offered 250 twice and i guess he needed the money so 3rd time he let me get her for the $250.

The first one is a high grade pastel, the second is a low grade pastel (the ones you see selling for under $50 at shows).

theyre all pastels and normals?

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theyre all pastels and normals?

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huh???normals?