Mojo x Normal HMM?

Well I cut the eggs today 5 egg clutch from a normal female virgin.

5 eggs, theres 3 mojos, normal and this odd all white fella in there.


Any ideas what its doing there since shes a virgin and normal. Before anyone says, its not the belly. The sides you can see are white no pattern as well.

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4092.jpg

MOM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._4369842_n.jpg

Normal with Hidden Daddy Platy gene ??? Or het for russo i cant tell them from normal...

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

Normal with Hidden Daddy Platy gene ???

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Normal came from friend in PA and mojos came from Gerry in florida. I called Gerry to give me a call to see if he can track the records on the male.

At first i was like oh its just the belly. Then it moved and the sides were all white.:please:

If that's male I'll definitely breed him back to mother ....:gj::gj::gj: I think more het russo than hiden Daddy platy gene.. but Who Knows... maybe is worthy throw lesser on her next season...:gj::gj::gj:

I second a het. Russo, they're really tough to tell from normals but have a similar look to your girl from what I've seen (if my memory serves well). They're in the same complex as the lessers, butters and mojos for making blue eyed leucistics.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

At first i was like oh its just the belly. Then it moved and the sides were all white.:please:

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That's all white Animal??.... you see it Whole already ?? because is one more possibility .. both Animals het Pied.. and is pattern somewhere there ;)

It moved enough when i was touching side of egg to get it tu turn over. At first the umbilical cord was on top, then moved over and revealed the back and i see no pattern

Rich, that's really neat. A couple years ago on KS someone had a similar thing happen but I never saw a follow up. He posted the female and asked what it was and everyone responded "normal". He then showed a clutch with a few white heads. Interesting stuff. This hobby never gets tired!

HEH that's a beauty of Breeding ball pythons.. You never know 100% what gonna pop up :D
Congrats whatever it is.. and now run and buy lottery ticket :gj::gj::gj:

Interesting. Sounds like those snakes are going to have some more work to do! Congrats

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Rich, that's really neat. A couple years ago on KS someone had a similar thing happen but I never saw a follow up. He posted the female and asked what it was and everyone responded "normal". He then showed a clutch with a few white heads. Interesting stuff. This hobby never gets tired!

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Im excited to see it come out. Now i just need to hope its male to breed back to mom and repeat it.

Congratulations! I know that's probably one of the most exciting moments you can have as a breeder, when something unusual pops up. ;)

well i had to take a double take at it and theres dorsal pattern of mojo in there. So looks like this could be a reduced high blushing mojo since sides are white.

Very interesting to see what it looks like once out. The head pattern i got to see as well is blushed out as well. Only time will tell what comes out.

Heres another mojo? that started out jut like this one and well check it out. Started out all white than developed like this.

Serpent Syndicate
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...dHatchling.jpg
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...osideshot2.jpg

And heres one more of that odd male with clutch mates

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/v...thsiblings.jpg

Uhhhh Ahhhh That Mojo Is frigging Awesome :bow::bow::bow:
DEFINITELY LOTTERY TICKET :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Uhhhh Ahhhh That Mojo Is frigging Awesome :bow::bow::bow:
DEFINITELY LOTTERY TICKET :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Im hoping this baby turns out like the one pictured above in the links.

I have a few say mom looks het russo but hard to tell. And with baby having a very faint pattern on back and white sides. Its wicked and im dieing over here waiting for it to crawl out.

I seriously want to see pics of that baby out of the egg. He looks awesome already! More pics more pics!!! Congrats!


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I would guess daddy gene.

Im loving all the guesses of what it could be, and its killing me not knowing 100% yet.

Ive never had one have this white faint pattern while rest are fully colored. Soo exciting I cant Stand it right now :taz:

In a weeks time ill take another picture to see if any pattern came it or not.

Can mom be a mocha?

Not sure i dont follow the gene so not sure how it would react to mojo

That is so awesome. Congrats Rich :) This is the kind of stuff that got me into Ball Pythons. There's so much uncovered stuff that is stumbled upon. Unlike some of the other cool threads that start on here and are never updated, you are active so I'm sure we'll see the end result! Subscribed.

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B

Hi,

Tell her to hurry up and come out. :P

It's killing me wondering what she is going to look like.


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This is so cool Rich! Congrats on the clutch!

I am just guessing could it be a natural albino? Sometime we forget that 2 normals can produce albinos, it is just one in millions of a chance. So is it possible to be some sort of albino mojo?

Wow I can't wait to see it out of the egg!!! Congrats big time!!! :gj:

First of all Congrats Rich. Since everyone else has thrown his .02 in the ring, I figured I would as well. I am voting for Mom being a Special, and that thing in the egg is a Crystal. It sounds like the odds would be right, and I am guessing that Mom is just a bit lower grade than a typical Special. Either way, that is awesome, and I can't wait to see it all the way out. I am betting there is more visible pattern to be seen that will develop a bit more as the baby ages (remember that color comes in last). If you start to see faint pattern develop everyday into something slightly more defined, I would definitely bet on Special.

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First of all Congrats Rich. Since everyone else has thrown his .02 in the ring, I figured I would as well. I am voting for Mom being a Special, and that thing in the egg is a Crystal. It sounds like the odds would be right, and I am guessing that Mom is just a bit lower grade than a typical Special. Either way, that is awesome, and I can't wait to see it all the way out. I am betting there is more visible pattern to be seen that will develop a bit more as the baby ages (remember that color comes in last). If you start to see faint pattern develop everyday into something slightly more defined, I would definitely bet on Special.

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That sounds just like what im seeing right now when the baby turned over and is seen the faded pattern. That would be awesome if a crystal popped out as i been looking at them recently

Figured I would grab a quick video so you can see comparison to rest of clutch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4U8OOOGao8

That is just awesome.... I can't wait to see it out of the egg....:gj:

:omfg:Drool worthy!!!:banana:

Heres more of mom

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4100.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4101.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4102.jpg

I definitely second "special." I've squinted at a lot of pictures of specials in the past year on account of one of my female dinkers ....

Think you may well have hit on what I was hoping to hit on! :O

Congrats and can't wait to see the whole snake! :D

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I definitely second "special." I've squinted at a lot of pictures of specials in the past year on account of one of my female dinkers ....

Think you may well have hit on what I was hoping to hit on! :O

Congrats and can't wait to see the whole snake! :D

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Thanks, Im trying to stay positive as i know how odds can turn for the worse later on. I pray this guy dont color up into a mojo.

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Heres more of mom

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4100.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4101.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4102.jpg

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I've got five eggs cooking from a girl that looks just like this one. :please:

man rich thats killer. I really hope you land the special.


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I sure hope something special is going on with this baby.

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I sure hope something special is going on with this baby.

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I just saw that weird mojo thatBbrad from serpent syndicate produced today, when I went to pick up my new fire. That thing is amazing and looks even better in person. I hope you get as lucky as he did.

thats amazing, it need to hurry up and get out of the egg

wwwoooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww

Rich,
After watching your video, I am pretty confident in saying that is a Crystal. It will not develop color into a Mojave. Just for future reference, I have never seen one baby drastically different from another in the color department. You can always compare hatchlings of the same clutch together to get a feel for color development. When they are "that" different, it's because they are different.

Congrats. I would be stoked. Matter of fact, I bred three girls this year that I thought were "possible" specials, and hope to have the same luck as you.

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Rich,
After watching your video, I am pretty confident in saying that is a Crystal. It will not develop color into a Mojave. Just for future reference, I have never seen one baby drastically different from another in the color department. You can always compare hatchlings of the same clutch together to get a feel for color development. When they are "that" different, it's because they are different.

Congrats. I would be stoked. Matter of fact, I bred three girls this year that I thought were "possible" specials, and hope to have the same luck as you.

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Thanks for the info. Im very stoked to see this lil bugger out of the egg.

Truly amazing! A big congrats to you! I would do the same pairing again next year! Can't wait to see more pics!

Heres 2 more pics. Hard to get pattern to show up due to barely there. But you can see it.

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4104.jpg
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_4103.jpg

Amazing, congrats!

Very Cool! That one will probably the last one out of the egg! LOL

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Very Cool! That one will probably the last one out of the egg! LOL

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Now that you say that and i been thinking it, I bet it comes out really late to play with my head

wicked! get out ur sharp pokin stick :cool:

Any updates? Did the little one decide to leave the egg yet???

with this being a crystal does this mean that all the other hatchlings carry the special gene too?
I'm not very up on the "special gene" LOL