super pastel breed to what

hey guys im having a really tough time figuring out what to breed with my super pastel male i do have a spider female but shes only 300g at this time but what should i look for in a female for him any thoughts :confused:

I'd wait for the spider.

id buy a spinner. that why you can get alot of cool stuff.

Bumble bee is goin wit my boy soon.as I get the cash

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Originally Posted by Abaddon91

hey guys im having a really tough time figuring out what to breed with my super pastel male i do have a spider female but shes only 300g at this time but what should i look for in a female for him any thoughts :confused:

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Red Axanthic for sure!

You can breed anything you can find to him and make so nice offspring. bumble bee, spinner, lemon blast, pastave, pewter, pretty much any double co/dom female and you will love the results. It all comes down to what you can afford

whats the avg price of breed wight or near wight for most codom females

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Originally Posted by Abaddon91

whats the avg price of breed wight or near wight for most codom females

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1500 grams is the minimum weight for a female for breeding. the rule of thumb that I have always been told is the female's 3rd winter (so if they were born spring of this year 2011, they will be ready to breed their 3rd winter, which would be winter of 2013). I have also been told the larger the female, the more quantity and quality of eggs you will have (ie: breeding a 1500g female may not give you the best clutch compared to a 2000g female)

If your male is breeding size and you don't want to wait until next year you could always pick up a nice breeding size female for around $100 bucks, you are guaranteed a clutch of pastels :) Or....depending on how much you have to spend, there are nice close-to-breeding size female morphs around 800-1200grams in the $500-700 range that you could get.

As other's have said, any codmon female you get will produce gorgeous babies with your Super...regardless of what she is. Your possibilities are endless--you just have to decide what you like. You already have a Spider waiting in the wings, so maybe look for a nice Pinstripe female, or even a Pastel female would give you a shot at some baby Supers!! :gj:

Good luck!:)

is 1500 really the min wieght ive been hearing alot of different "rule"ive heard 1200 1500 and 2000 as minimum also have heard larger females 3000+ dont produce as much as a 2000

If the female eats really well I'll start breeding her at 1300-1400 grams and when they start their feeding frenzy they top 1500+ grams before they start building follicles.
If the female isn't the greatest eater I prefer to wait till they hit 1500 grams+

The size of the snake does not always correlate to larger clutches.
I have a 2500 gram girl that dropped 7 eggs and a 1500 gram girl that has 7 eggs.
I do prefer to breed the larger girls though, they just seem to do better and recover better after dropping eggs.

I would pick up a large normal or two and learn the whole breeding process with something not so expensive.
There's certainly nothing wrong with whole clutches of pastels :D

sounds like a plan

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

If the female eats really well I'll start breeding her at 1300-1400 grams and when they start their feeding frenzy they top 1500+ grams before they start building follicles.
If the female isn't the greatest eater I prefer to wait till they hit 1500 grams+

The size of the snake does not always correlate to larger clutches.
I have a 2500 gram girl that dropped 7 eggs and a 1500 gram girl that has 7 eggs.
I do prefer to breed the larger girls though, they just seem to do better and recover better after dropping eggs.

I would pick up a large normal or two and learn the whole breeding process with something not so expensive.
There's certainly nothing wrong with whole clutches of pastels :D

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I've definately heard and read in quite a few places that the smaller the female the less chance of getting a good quantity of viable eggs. In fact, I know someone whos 2900 gram female laid a clutch of 13 :O and 12 of those hatches :gj:

I also know someone who has bred 2 different females under 1600 grams and both laid 4 eggs each and one of the eggs was a slug. So I don't know I assume each snake is different (just like each animal or human is different) but as a rule I would think breeding less than 1500 grams is not the greatest idea....as you said especially if they aren't great eaters.

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Originally Posted by tikigator

I've definately heard and read in quite a few places that the smaller the female the less chance of getting a good quantity of viable eggs. In fact, I know someone whos 2900 gram female laid a clutch of 13 :O and 12 of those hatches :gj:

I also know someone who has bred 2 different females under 1600 grams and both laid 4 eggs each and one of the eggs was a slug. So I don't know I assume each snake is different (just like each animal or human is different) but as a rule I would think breeding less than 1500 grams is not the greatest idea....as you said especially if they aren't great eaters.

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As a general rule I think you are correct but there are exceptions. For example this year I bred 1300 gram 5 year old female and a 3 year old 1800 gram female. They both laid 5 fertile eggs with no slugs. All eggs from both clutches hatched. The smaller snake has never been a strong feeder. This year she stopped eating when I started pairing. After a month or so of her refusing food I decided to throw a male with her. She was the last female to be paired up and she was the first to lay. I was worried about her after she laid because she was around 900 grams. She has eaten better in the 2 months since she laid than ever before. She already weighs more than she did before breeding.