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  • 06-19-2011, 09:54 AM
    JNballs
    a dream came true...
    Yes, it really has been a dream for a long time, but yesterday it came true :)

    http://u.jimdo.com/www32/o/sc49e32c6.../std/image.jpg
  • 06-19-2011, 10:13 AM
    cschneider
    Re: a dream came true...
    Wow! Is that a boa/ball combo?
  • 06-19-2011, 10:18 AM
    Cendalla
    Beautiful. I've wanted one for a long time! Congrats:gj:
  • 06-19-2011, 10:24 AM
    modean02
    Angolan, right?
  • 06-19-2011, 10:50 AM
    Aes_Sidhe
    Yea Angolan ... That is awesome.. I'm Jealous like hell now ;)... Congrats :gj::gj::gj:
  • 06-19-2011, 11:00 AM
    dragonboy4578
    Very nice.... I would love to have one down the road.....:D
  • 06-19-2011, 11:16 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    Wow! Is that a boa/ball combo?

    Not to poke too much fun at you, but this made me lol a little.

    Boas and pythons are as genetically compatible as you are with a capuchin.
  • 06-19-2011, 11:36 AM
    grits
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    Not to poke too much fun at you, but this made me lol a little.

    Boas and pythons are as genetically compatible as you are with a capuchin.

    That made me LOL a little :D
  • 06-19-2011, 01:33 PM
    cschneider
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    Not to poke too much fun at you, but this made me lol a little.

    Boas and pythons are as genetically compatible as you are with a capuchin.

    Ok I don't know anything about angolan obviously, but there are a lot of people out there that are trying to breed boas with balls, just as an fyi. Maybe you should google it. Here is one instance if you want to follow the link below. I have never heard of offspring being produced, but there are people trying.

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ad.php?t=77386

    Sorry to get off topic. Congrats on the new pick up!
  • 06-19-2011, 01:38 PM
    reptile65
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    Ok I don't know anything about angolan obviously, but there are a lot of people out there that are trying to breed boas with balls, just as an fyi. Maybe you should google it. Here is one instance if you want to follow the link below. I have never heard of offspring being produced, but there are people trying.

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ad.php?t=77386

    Sorry to get off topic. Congrats on the new pick up!

    I think the point is ball pythons are egg layers, boas are live bearers. How can there ever possibly be offspring produced from this pairing? People can try all they want, but good luck getting any babies! Haha
  • 06-19-2011, 02:40 PM
    Melody
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptile65 View Post
    I think the point is ball pythons are egg layers, boas are live bearers. How can there ever possibly be offspring produced from this pairing? People can try all they want, but good luck getting any babies! Haha

    Agreed.
  • 06-22-2011, 02:24 PM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: a dream came true...
    Wow! What a beauty, congrats! I'm super jealous now.
  • 06-28-2011, 06:27 PM
    oppie2005
    looks like it got a bit off topic. but anyways. BEAUTIFUL! if you dont mind me asking, how much did you give for her? im saving up right now, as i want an angolan to be my next snake. But Congrats!

    edit: BTW, there have been alot of people trying to breed with capuchins....fyi. just google it. lol
  • 06-28-2011, 06:43 PM
    Cendalla
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by oppie2005 View Post
    looks like it got a bit off topic. but anyways. BEAUTIFUL! if you dont mind me asking, how much did you give for her? im saving up right now, as i want an angolan to be my next snake. But Congrats!

    edit: BTW, there have been alot of people trying to breed with capuchins....fyi. just google it. lol

    Ok. I know this has nothing to do with the OP... but what is a capuchins? I googled it and got articles on monks and monkeys. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that thats not what they are trying to breed. So...Help?!
    :hijackd:
  • 06-28-2011, 07:00 PM
    oppie2005
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cendalla View Post
    Ok. I know this has nothing to do with the OP... but what is a capuchins? I googled it and got articles on monks and monkeys. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that thats not what they are trying to breed. So...Help?!
    :hijackd:

    sorry to get you confused. a capuchin is a type of monkey, i dont think anyone is trying to breed snakes with monkeys, i was referring a previous post talking about the boa x python is like you trying to breed with a capuchin.

    Sorry OP for getting off topic.
  • 06-29-2011, 02:14 AM
    JNballs
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by oppie2005 View Post
    if you dont mind me asking, how much did you give for her?

    Hello,

    in our case this would not be very helpful as we had luck and just paid about 150$ for this guy. :)
  • 06-29-2011, 05:04 AM
    deathadder1069
    not saying that you can breed a boa and ball but just like with capuchins and humans....im sure theres plenty of people out there that have tried bahahahaha :P
  • 06-29-2011, 06:14 AM
    modean02
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JNballs View Post
    Hello,

    in our case this would not be very helpful as we had luck and just paid about 150$ for this guy. :)

    Thats all you paid for the beauty? Where can i find a steal like that?:please:
  • 06-29-2011, 06:36 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Angolan pythons are so cool. I've loved them ever since I first found out about them. Very lucky find you got there!
  • 06-29-2011, 07:22 AM
    DemmBalls
    Re: a dream came true...
    Beautiful animal! I have wanted an Angolan for quite a while now!

    P.s. So you guys are saying that I should quit pairing my Boa with my BP's? This is a bummer as I had some good locks! You can quit googling me now. :rofl:
  • 06-29-2011, 11:27 AM
    xFenrir
    Re: a dream came true...
    I can see where the boaxball comment came from; the head does look an awful lot like a ball's, but the rest of it doesn't. :P Is it really not possible for an egg-laying species to breed with a live-birth species? I wouldn't have known that.


    Beautiful snake by the way. :D
  • 06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
    oppie2005
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JNballs View Post
    Hello,

    in our case this would not be very helpful as we had luck and just paid about 150$ for this guy. :)

    wow....thats pretty awesome steal. sounds like the guy that found one in a pet store listed as a ball that some guy had brought back cause he didnt want it. If you ever decide that you dont want him anymore....hit me up, id be more than happy to take him off your hands :D
  • 06-30-2011, 07:33 PM
    CatandDiallo
    So gorgeous!

    Can anyone tell me why these guys are pretty rare in the pet trade (or as far as I know, they are)?

    They're as gorgeous as ball pythons, and from what I understand, have similar temperaments?!
  • 06-30-2011, 08:10 PM
    oppie2005
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CatandDiallo View Post
    So gorgeous!

    Can anyone tell me why these guys are pretty rare in the pet trade (or as far as I know, they are)?

    They're as gorgeous as ball pythons, and from what I understand, have similar temperaments?!

    Absolutely,

    The little country of Angola was in civil war from 1975 until 2002(i believe) and the jungle or whatever is there is still covered in landmines. Most people wont risk going out there to find these beautiful snakes, due to the amount of danger involved. SO, the few people that were able to obtain some have bred them and they have become a little more available, thus dropping the price of them from 20k+ to as low as 500 that is what some are currently priced at on kingsnake. seems like most are still going for about 1k for males and like, 2500ish for females. hope that answered your question.

    edit: also, as far as their temperaments go, its my understanding that their temperaments are very similar. and are also quite a bit more active then their ball cousin.
  • 07-06-2011, 12:24 PM
    Swoof
    Re: a dream came true...
    Great looking Angolan. I'm hoping to produce some next year. As far as Angolans comparing to balls they come from the same country, just one from north one from south. As far as i know importation is still ileagal from Angola and still war fall out in other countries around them preventing export. They get quite a bit longer then ball pythons and have a lot more "tail" then a ball does. I've had an adult pair for about 4 years now.
  • 07-19-2011, 11:37 AM
    muddoc
    As others have stated, great pick up. I have a pair that are about 1 year old, but have been watching a group that my buddy picked up about 6 years ago. The biggest differences I have seen with the Angolans versus the Balls is that they are much more attentive than Balls (much like Blood Pythons). Also, they don't fast like Ball pythons. They also have beaded scales and instead of a peaked spine, they have a Y shaped spine, and as others have stated, are a bit longer with a considerably longer tail

    They are definitely an awesome species. The other thing that has kept the numbers down a bit (outside of price) is the fact that most females won't lay until they are 5 years old. Some will go at 4 years of age, but the longer maturation time means you have to have more patience to be a successful breeder of Angolans.
  • 07-21-2011, 11:38 PM
    Fizox
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptile65 View Post
    I think the point is ball pythons are egg layers, boas are live bearers. How can there ever possibly be offspring produced from this pairing? People can try all they want, but good luck getting any babies! Haha

    +1
  • 07-27-2011, 12:37 PM
    JungleCarpet81
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JNballs View Post
    Yes, it really has been a dream for a long time, but yesterday it came true :)

    http://u.jimdo.com/www32/o/sc49e32c6.../std/image.jpg

    whats the full length/weight size these get? what do you feed this one small pigs/rabbits?
  • 07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
    tcutting
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JungleCarpet81 View Post
    whats the full length/weight size these get? what do you feed this one small pigs/rabbits?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=angolan+python

    just teasing you there but no they dont get that big. about the same as a BP

    and congrats on the new snake. and I know i am late to the party.
  • 07-28-2011, 10:33 AM
    JungleCarpet81
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tcutting View Post
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=angolan+python

    just teasing you there but no they dont get that big. about the same as a BP

    and congrats on the new snake. and I know i am late to the party.

    lol it was actually funny...can anyone do that google joke? cause i got a lot of FB friends who need that done to them.

    Wow these look bigger than they really are i guess.
  • 07-28-2011, 10:41 AM
    tcutting
    Re: a dream came true...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JungleCarpet81 View Post
    lol it was actually funny...can anyone do that google joke? cause i got a lot of FB friends who need that done to them.

    Wow these look bigger than they really are i guess.

    Indeed just go to lmgtfy.com(let me google that for you) and have at it. I really like the breed a lot and they tend to be rather tame, from my experience.
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