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  • 06-16-2011, 02:09 AM
    AkHerps
    Disgusting and nasty!
    My Blood decided to squirm into the couch while I was holding him so I had to take him out, which led to him trying to kill me, and projectile pee and urates exploding into my face, with more of him trying to kill me, which led to me having to restrain him with a towel and try and get him back into his tub. Not a very good experience for either of us.

    He has been "mean" since day one and I don't see him getting any better, he only seems to be getting worse, regardless of how often I hold him.

    It is very frustrating. :(
  • 06-16-2011, 03:55 AM
    dragonboy4578
    I can picture the sceen in my head.....:D Sorry to hear about your blood not calming down. Some just never seem to....
  • 06-16-2011, 04:26 AM
    Tikall
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Don't let this dishearten you... Getting stuck in a couch is just a bad situation, and if you are still working for his trust something like this can set you back weeks. How are you holding him when you take him out? To earn my blood's trust I had to hold him for 10-20 minutes a day for a couple months. I would stick to sitting on the floor with the snake on your lap, with you making minimal movements. Let the snake decide what it wants to do, hissing is perfectly normal. Can't say it will work, but I wouldn't give up.
  • 06-16-2011, 04:43 AM
    llovelace
    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You will look back on this event and have a good laugh, hand in there :)
  • 06-16-2011, 09:18 AM
    mainbutter
    It took me months of no-touch handling (only contact was made with a snake hook) before my blood python stopped going after my face.

    She's since calmed down and now seems quite happy to be handled, fairly inquisitive and "explore-y" rather than the tensed-muscles/snap at everything that moved/defensive girl she used to be.
  • 06-16-2011, 11:02 AM
    AkHerps
    I take him out and let him sit on my lap. I don't try to manipulate or manhandle him. This was the first incident where he all out went into crazy snake mode haha.

    He is very squirmy and fast and doesn't like to sit still, so keeping him on my lap can be a challenge, but I try to direct him around without peeving him off.

    Every time I move him, he gives me that look like, "Hey, I don't think so *huffffffff*"

    It's like some days, he will sit on my lap, he's hissy, but he calms down and just lays there. Then other days he's hissing and "running" to try and get away.

    I felt really horrible about what happened last night because I know he's probably going to be upset about it. But I have to clean his tub tonight to get all the urates out so he's going to have to hang in there T_T
  • 06-16-2011, 11:19 AM
    AkHerps
    But yes, it was pretty horrible. I had set him on the floor to get a towel and when I came back in the room, he was looking at me and waving his tail in the air like, "Come on, come get some more, I've still got pee left!!"
  • 06-16-2011, 12:57 PM
    Rhasputin
    Another good way to handle an uncomfotable snake, is to put them in a loose bag or a pouch and watch a movie or something with them on you. It'll keep them calm, and they'll get used to being out. Touching them through the bag is good practice too.

    You can also sit down, and stick them in your shirt. it sounds silly but it helps.
  • 06-16-2011, 01:11 PM
    Simple Man
  • 06-16-2011, 01:29 PM
    Ham
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    I can't believe this happened to you...

    The exact same situation came up with one of my less friendly bloods, I was trying to let her back in her tub, and she shot out the side and tried to squirm behind my dresser, and it was a mess back there, so I freaked and grabbed her tail, she went insane! She was pulling so hard and her tail started whipping around and she literally sprayed feces and urates directly into my face! It even got in my open eyes! But I struggled through the pain and stink and got her back in the tub, but she tried to nail me in the process, almost bit me in the arm, lol. She is doing better nowadays though, it seemed like she was just going through a bad period as she started to mature towards adult, kinda like puberty was pissing her off, I have heard that they can calm down as they age more...

    PS My girlfriend saw the whole thing happen, she was screaming and gagging the whole time! lol... The smell was awful it reeked worse than normal snake poo, I think she must of been musking as well, do Bloods do that? The smell took weeks to dissipate...
  • 06-16-2011, 02:02 PM
    mues155
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dragonboy4578 View Post
    I can picture the sceen in my head.....:D Sorry to hear about your blood not calming down. Some just never seem to....

    thats exactly what i was thinking...I can picture like maybe a half cartoon version of a person and the blood, and the whole thing is acted out and I hope by now even you cant help but laugh. Because its one of those thing like you just step back and say...really?! did that JUST happen?! :D
  • 06-16-2011, 02:09 PM
    Tikall
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    The smell was awful it reeked worse than normal snake poo, I think she must of been musking as well, do Bloods do that? The smell took weeks to dissipate...

    Yes, they musk. :bleh:
  • 06-16-2011, 02:14 PM
    Ham
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Awesome! So it was urates, feces, and musk being squirted into my face!
  • 06-16-2011, 02:25 PM
    Cendalla
    I'm sorry for your chaos but I can honestly say that I'm glad it was you and not me. :D
    I hope he calms down for you soon!
  • 06-16-2011, 02:51 PM
    Popeye
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simple Man View Post

    Oh that would look cute! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
  • 06-16-2011, 04:27 PM
    AkHerps
    I do not have a sense of smell, so I don't know if he also musked, I just know I had to go and wash off and change all my clothes and put a blanket that was on the couch and the towel in a trash bag to be washed because there was so much pee. It pretty much felt like someone throwing a glass of water in my face. A glass of water with grapes in it...:rolleye2:

    I think when I grabbed him by the butt I "massaged" him to let all those big hard urates out...I guess that's a good thing??? T_T

    I just kind of stood there with him on the floor like :O:O What just happened!?!

    I'll try the bag, it sounds like he might like that. He tries to burrow under things when he is out so maybe he will relax in a dark spot he can bury in. And hopefully not freak out and pee in the bag/pillowcase whatever I use.

    And hopefully he doesn't completely remember everything that happened since I have to get the rest of the pee and urates out of his tub...:please:
  • 06-16-2011, 05:22 PM
    Tikall
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AkHerps View Post
    And hopefully he doesn't completely remember everything that happened since I have to get the rest of the pee and urates out of his tub...:please:

    Not to scare you but he will probably remember. Luckily he is probably emptied out! Calmly and smoothly move him to a different tub before he really gets prepared to go at you again. Then you are free to clean as long as you like.
  • 06-16-2011, 05:47 PM
    2kdime
    Honestly they all have their bad days, and thats all Id chalk it up to so long as I was sure I was keeping him as comfy as possible on a daily basis.

    I do notice that some Bloods go through a little snappy period in what you could call their "teenage years"

    Most grow out of it and I dont have a single testy animal here.

    Each one has their days but nothing that Id call a staple of their personality.
  • 06-16-2011, 05:58 PM
    AkHerps
    Thanks T_T
    Haha

    Yeah Trevor, I think I'm just really going to make the time to try and work with him more without over-doing it.

    I think he is comfortable, as he was only his new tub 4 days before eating. I know they can be picky of husbandry but I've always made sure his temps and humidity are spot on, and he's still never missed a meal, even if the little piggy is shedding and I didn't notice.
  • 06-16-2011, 06:15 PM
    Ham
    Re: Disgusting and nasty!
    Ya man look at it this way, atleast you helped him pass all those huge hard urates, he will probably take a big old poo soon...
  • 06-17-2011, 01:35 AM
    AkHerps
    Quote:

    Ya man
    Ya Woman! :P

    Anyways...so tonight went, well...oddly.

    I got his old tub ready so he could use it while I cleaned out his current enclosure. Well, I reached in and got him and set him on my lap...he didn't even hiss...He was actually somewhat mellow, and was exploring around, not really running away.

    Then after sticking him in the little tub for like 5 minutes while cleaning his other one, he got a little grumpy when I took him out, some hissing and stuff, but I held him for another 5 or so minutes and then put him back in his clean tub.

    It was the best he has behaved...

    Could the large amount of urates been making him uncomfortable? Or was he having a bad day, and today was maybe an okay day?? haha

    Anyways, here are some pics...

    These are the smallest of the urates he launched at my face.....I threw the big ones away yesterday. There were about 5 of these...

    http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/m...Pepper/071.jpg

    And this is him today! Next to a lighter, and yes...the baby newspaper is the only stuff I had haha

    http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/m...Pepper/052.jpg
  • 06-17-2011, 01:58 AM
    llovelace
    He's cute :), maybe he was just having a bad day, and yes he could have been uncomfy from the urates.
  • 06-17-2011, 02:28 AM
    Tikall
    Very nice! My snakes are always a bit pissed after a bad day and gradually calm down, so it is nice to hear yours is doing so much better already.
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