Eye issues?

My male BP Vincent has had something off about his right eye since I before brought him home. I don't think it's anything serious, maybe something from a previous shed, but I'm not entirely sure. Any opinions?

(Thank god my phone camera has a macro mode)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87...u/Righteye.jpg


This is his right eye, looks perfectly fine.


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Sheryu/Lefteye.jpg


This is his left eye, it looks a bit off. From what I can tell maybe part of the inner socket is popping out a little bit? Maybe it has something to do with a previous shed? I've no idea.

I have a vet lined up a little under thirty miles away that works on ball pythons and other reptiles and they have a very good reputation. Does anyone think that I should bring him in for a visit?

Hi,

It might be a retained eyecap but looking at it I think it is more likely to simply be the membrane between the spectacle and surrounding scales showing as a result of beingpulled out during the shedding process.

A clearer, closer, in focus picture of the eye should help.

I would just make certain the humidity is right for the next shed and see what it looks like afterwards.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

It might be a retained eyecap but looking at it I think it is more likely to simply be the membrane between the spectacle and surrounding scales showing as a result of beingpulled out during the shedding process.

A clearer, closer, in focus picture of the eye should help.

I would just make certain the humidity is right for the next shed and see what it looks like afterwards.


dr del

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How are these pictures? I got two angles for you if it helps any.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Sheryu/Eye.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Sheryu/eye2.jpg

I don't want to get too close to his eye and try to see if it's hard or soft, so I'm not entirely sure what it is, it looks soft though.

The eyes seem pretty clear to me, if its from the shed I wouldn't say its an eyecap. But then again I myself am not too sure if a retained eyecap can still look clear like that.

Hmmm,

I can't see any of the ragged edges I would expect from a retained eyecap and his eye looks clear and bright in the photo rather than either silvery or slightly opaque.

I'd wait and see what it looks like after the next shed.


dr del

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Originally Posted by PandaBoo

How are these pictures? I got two angles for you if it helps any.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Sheryu/Eye.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Sheryu/eye2.jpg

I don't want to get too close to his eye and try to see if it's hard or soft, so I'm not entirely sure what it is, it looks soft though.

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It's hard to tell from your pictures.

At first glance I thought it might be built up material from a retained spectacle or two, but the eye looks clear.

That gray area you are seeing around the periphery of the eye really looks like the rolled up edge you sometimes see with retained spectacles.

I'd go see a qualified reptile vet and have them take a quick look.

I have seen something like it when i had ratsnakes, when they had mite infections. Have you checked that?

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Originally Posted by ogdentrece

The eyes seem pretty clear to me, if its from the shed I wouldn't say its an eyecap. But then again I myself am not too sure if a retained eyecap can still look clear like that.

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That what's I first thought that it was but his eye wasn't cloudy at all like when they have retained eyecaps.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hmmm,

I can't see any of the ragged edges I would expect from a retained eyecap and his eye looks clear and bright in the photo rather than either silvery or slightly opaque.

I'd wait and see what it looks like after the next shed.


dr del

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Alright, thanks for the advice, I'll post an update after his next shed. :]

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

It's hard to tell from your pictures.

At first glance I thought it might be built up material from a retained spectacle or two, but the eye looks clear.

That gray area you are seeing around the periphery of the eye really looks like the rolled up edge you sometimes see with retained spectacles.

I'd go see a qualified reptile vet and have them take a quick look.

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It's not actually gray, it's more of an off white actually. When I would check his cage temp and would look at him quick I thought it gave him a slightly human quality look.

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Originally Posted by murdermurder

I have seen something like it when i had ratsnakes, when they had mite infections. Have you checked that?

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Yeah, I checked for mites when I brought him home. He's CB if that information helps at all.

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Originally Posted by murdermurder

I have seen something like it when i had ratsnakes, when they had mite infections. Have you checked that?

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That's from irritation to the membrane around the eye.

Whether the eye is irritated or the spectacle is retained, either way, the best course of action is to take him to a vet.

I've had retained eye caps without cloudy or dark or otherwise odd looking eyes. If you aren't sure whats going on, Skiploder is right, take him to an experienced herp vet and have the vet check out the eye. Don't mess with the spectacle or the skin surrounding if you don't know whats going on.

When I first got my beak snake she had a terrible case of mites. You could actually see in around her eye. After I got rid of them she had something very similar to this for a few months. She shed twice before it came off, and both times her eye cap came off fine, but there was a thick ring around the eye in the shed and it was still there. Finally after her last shed it flaked off no problem. I just kept her humidity up. So I would say wait it out for a while and see if it resolves itself in a couple sheds :)