Burgundy Project

So I know this is going to be a long process as Burgundy's are recessive but I thought it would be fun to keep a journal going on my projects.

I currently have 0.2 Het Burgundy's.

This season I bred:
Het Burgundy X Reduced Pattern Spider
Het Burgundy X Pinstripe

With any luck Ill have Pinstripes PH Burgundy and Spiders PH Burgundy.

My Het Burgundy X Reduced Pattern Spider laid 8 eggs. 4 were slugs and when lit only 2 were fertile. 4 are currently incubating. (not off to a good start)

Het Burgundy X Pinstripe has yet to lay. Both females were around 3500g before breeding season. I will post pictures when I can.

That sounds like it will be some awesome snakes! I'm just getting into balls and I'm very interested in the genetics! =)

What does the burgundy look like? I have a normal/dinker that I was told looks like a burgundy...but I had no idea what that was, any insight?

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Originally Posted by Powerspythons

What does the burgundy look like? I have a normal/dinker that I was told looks like a burgundy...but I had no idea what that was, any insight?

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This is a picture of one of Ralph Davis's Burgundys. Notice the high blushing with a almost red tint to them. [IMG]http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...ndy_01-alt.jpg[/IMG]

The few I have seen pictures of have been great. I can't wait to see what these guys can do! luck to you:)

Added a few pictures I have of the first het burgundy with her eggshttp://www.nwreptiles.com/image.php?id=116&s=lhttp://www.nwreptiles.com/image.php?id=115&s=lhttp://www.nwreptiles.com/image.php?id=114&s=l

Sorry to hear bout your bad luck with your clutch. Hoping your other female makes up for it.

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Originally Posted by Chimera Reptiles

Sorry to hear bout your bad luck with your clutch. Hoping your other female makes up for it.

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Yeah I think she may have one bad tube. Would explain why 4 out of 8 were bad right from the get go. Im gonna breed her again next year and if she does the same thing then I guess ill have my answer. Lol was all excited she laid 8 then was like ohhh... This year I bred small, Ive been stocking up so next year I can go big haha.

Good luck with the eggs, you don't see many burgundy projects around, I'm always looking up stuff on burgundies cause it seems like they've disappeared from the morph table since they aren't a standout morph. I'm trying to simply get my own off the ground but my girl simply hasn't been entirely cooperative.
This is really the only good comparison pic I have of her. I got her in 2009 as an adult captive hatched so shes really unproven , she locked up like crazy last year and I even felt a good 7 follicles but she decided not to go and reabsorbed, way for getting my hopes up; and on top of that she went on a bit of a food strike for at least 5 months :(
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...parisonpic.jpg

I think shes starting to get her act together this year, as recently shes started pounding rats again, and shes locked up only twice I've seen,but no follicles yet that I can tell. I want to be able to at least look forward to some hets from her,she needs to quit holdin' out on me.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...arisonpic2.jpg
I love those silver flames of hers, really makes me think burgundy has some kind of axanthicism going on moreso that hypo.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9/SD531408.jpg

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Originally Posted by kyote19

Good luck with the eggs, you don't see many burgundy projects around, I'm always looking up stuff on burgundies cause it seems like they've disappeared from the morph table since they aren't a standout morph. I'm trying to simply get my own off the ground but my girl simply hasn't been entirely cooperative.
This is really the only good comparison pic I have of her. I got her in 2009 as an adult captive hatched so shes really unproven , she locked up like crazy last year and I even felt a good 7 follicles but she decided not to go and reabsorbed, way for getting my hopes up; and on top of that she went on a bit of a food strike for at least 5 months :(
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...parisonpic.jpg

I think shes starting to get her act together this year, as recently shes started pounding rats again, and shes locked up only twice I've seen,but no follicles yet that I can tell. I want to be able to at least look forward to some hets from her,she needs to quit holdin' out on me.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...arisonpic2.jpg
I love those silver flames of hers, really makes me think burgundy has some kind of axanthicism going on moreso that hypo.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9/SD531408.jpg

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I know RDR is working with some burgundy stuff, Ive contacted him asking if he was ready to sell anything yet and he said hes still working with it. Im excited to see what will happen also. right now im working on the spider burgundy and a pinstripe burgundy. I may expand that next season as well.. Bot sure whats gonna happen yet, just one project im dinkering with along with my harlequin project.

So thought I would update. Out of the 4 eggs incubating the 2 that were infertile have gone bad..

So now im left with two lonely eggs. I am super excited though as they are expected to hatch 6/27.

Stay tuned for disappointing results lol.

So yet another update...

Checked on the eggs today and only one is still white. The other of the two good ones is a reddish brown and starting to mold. With only a couple days left till hatch I have my fingers crossed. We shall see :)

GOOO LUCK:please:!!!

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Originally Posted by modean02

GOOO LUCK:please:!!!

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Thank you. My hopes are high and my fingers will remain crossed until I see two snakes hopefully.

Ok so the long awaited results are in and well I guess I cant be disappointed as I knew it was coming. Looks like the second egg went bad. It was wicked, I cut it open just to check. The egg sac was solid and you could see a pink squiggly thing. You could see an eye and where the mouth formed but that was about it. It was a little sad.

On the upside looks like I have a healthy PH burgundy.

Not sure of sex yet but right now just to salvage the situation I'm praying for a male so I can at least breed him back to mom to try and prove out the burgundy. If it turns out to be a female well guess im back to square one next season...

Pictures to come.

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Originally Posted by kyote19

Good luck with the eggs, you don't see many burgundy projects around, I'm always looking up stuff on burgundies cause it seems like they've disappeared from the morph table since they aren't a standout morph.

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That's because most of them never proved genetic...I picked up a big WC group in 2003 and they never proved.

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

That's because most of them never proved genetic...I picked up a big WC group in 2003 and they never proved.

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World of ball python's doesn't even have anything. They have it listed but no picture or who it was proved by. I know RDR is doing some work but I wish they would show us! I have yet to hear anything about them being proved out but I have seen pictures so I know its gotta be possible.

So the one good snake that hatched has died. Looks like he was underdeveloped. Not sure whats going on but a long wait for nothing... Hopeful for next year.