Possibly A Yellowbelly Bp?

Found this little girl in petco yesterday and since they were discounted to $29.99 I couldnt help but buy her.

She was buried below 5 other ball pythons and none had her bright color or belly pattern. she was also the smallest so im not sure if the breeder just grabbed a bunch and packed them in shipping boxes or what.

Current Weight: 113 Grams

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Very nice pickup. As for being yellowbelly I can't tell. Could you get a clearer pic of her belly? Either way she is very cute.....:gj:

I moved this into the "Is This a Morph?" forum. ;)

She's really pretty. The belly picture isn't clear enough to tell for sure, but its clear she at least doesn't have strong markers. Either way, I'd keep her and try to prove something out of her. :yes:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1730.jpg

As I said, the markers aren't strong....but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it looks like a yellow belly to me. There are folks around with a more practiced eye than mine....but that's my impression. :gj:

Just so everyone knows the belly pic was taken with no flash so her colors werent diluted by light or anything.

Ill be keeping her.. Definantly:D

Clear belly and nice sides. She has flames and some of her Alien heads are round and hover over flames, shes great looking. I would say she is a YB. Still would like a better belly pic

Despite the name of the morph, it's not the yellow coloration of the belly that makes me think that. Most YB's aren't yellow. It's the markings along the sides of her belly.

Looks YB to me! Nice pick-up!

Thanks im happy with this pick-up. Im gonna take a pic of her and my normal for a contrast

Tinkerbell: 1,286 gram normal
Tangerine: 113 gram possible yellowbelly but not sure yet

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1731.jpg


Tinkerbell's Belly Shot

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1732.jpg


Tangerine's Next Belly Shot

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1733.jpg


once again no flash was used... just a small overhead lamp

She's looking like a yellowbelly to me almost for sure! Lucky pickup! :) As was said, the belly markers aren't as strong as on some other yellow bellies, but they are there, and coupled with her nice flames and coloration I'm confident that you found a little yellow belly girl :)

I will say YB as well.. Not Super strong checkering on sthe side if the belly but together with head spot VERY NICE FLAMES... I say YES IT IS YB... an Congratulations on new addition :gj:

The only Compare Contrast i took with a flash
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1734.jpg

Only one way to know for sure.. ;)

Omg thanks!!!! Im happy i never expected this to be at petco

NOW MY NEXT QUESTION IS

if i breed Tangerine to another yellowbelly and she proves out i should get a mix of yellowbelly, normal, and a chance of an ivory or 2 depending on the clutch size

am i right???? i read that all yellowbellys are ivory hets but is that true

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Originally Posted by LonelyGhost

NOW MY NEXT QUESTION IS

if i breed Tangerine to another yellowbelly and she proves out i should get a mix of yellowbelly, normal, and a chance of an ivory or 2 depending on the clutch size

am i right???? i read that all yellowbellys are ivory hets but is that true

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You got it!

Now... the word "het" is short for heterozygous, which means that out of the two sets of genes that every animal has, it carries one mutated gene. So, in theory, yellowbellies are het (heterozygous) for ivory, which is the "super" or homozygous (meaning it has both mutated genes) form.

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So, in theory, yellowbellies are het (heterozygous) for ivory, which is the "super" or homozygous (meaning it has both mutated genes) form.

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For a fact a yellowbelly is a visual het for an Ivory, it's not just a theory ;)

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if i breed Tangerine to another yellowbelly and she proves out i should get a mix of yellowbelly, normal, and a chance of an ivory or 2 depending on the clutch size

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25% normal, 50% yellowbelly and 25% Ivory are the per egg chances breeding yellowbely X yellowbelly.

oh ok thank you for clearing that up... now i just need to find and buy another yellowbelly at some point lol.

prolly when i get more settled as i wasnt expecting to buy tangerine so soon except for the fact that some things happen without warning and good deals cant be passed up lol

good looking pick up, from the flames on the side it makes me think yb, my male doesn't have strong markers either, but as he has gotten older, its easier to tell on him

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coolness... Thank you everyone for the help!!!!

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For a fact a yellowbelly is a visual het for an Ivory, it's not just a theory ;)

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Haha I'm tired, good catch :P I meant that although we don't usually talk about them like we do most hets because they're visual, the het idea still applies

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Haha I'm tired, good catch :P I meant that although we don't usually talk about them like we do most hets because they're visual, the het idea still applies

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It's all good :)

I wish the terms co-dom/super would just go away, they confuse the crap out of people :rolleye2:

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Haha I'm tired, good catch :P I meant that although we don't usually talk about them like we do most hets because they're visual, the het idea still applies

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On the beginning Ivory was treated as recessive morph because of similarities between YB and Normals this is why people still calling YB as het for Ivory ( but going that way pastel is a het for super pastel, fire is a het for Lucy)...

With bigger knowledge about morphs at general Yb with have significant visual differences from wild type was classified as Co-dominant morph with super form - Ivory. Term "het" is now mostly used for non visual animals carrying recessive gene

I just took her to rons reptiles our local breeder and they looked tangerine over and sexed her as a female like i had thought...

they said she looks like a normal but because of the blushing and belly pattern (markers) that she could have a possibility of either being a yellowbelly or a Het Albino.

They also said she would be great as a dinker later to try and prove out which type she could be

I don't really see a Yellow Belly. The lighting is not good because your normal shows up with a yellow belly in the pics too! Here is a link to show you what to look for: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...s+Yellow+Belly

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I don't really see a Yellow Belly. The lighting is not good because your normal shows up with a yellow belly in the pics too! Here is a link to show you what to look for: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...s+Yellow+Belly

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i agree lighting was just yellow because the normal showed up the same color as the possible "yellowbelly" theres not much of a headspot like normal yb's but the flames and the patterns look sort of like one

Just took these today after cleaning the tub. I keep them both together because they seem to like to cuddle and are both girls


http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1739.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/...1/GEDC1738.jpg
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im not sure but i dont see the belly of a yellowbelly really but the only way to prove whether she is or not is to prove her out when she is ready but either way that is a really good pickup she is still beautiful either way

I think she is too dark for a Yellow Belly! I don't see any yellow! She is beautiful with amazing flames! You may have something going on there but it's not a Yellow Belly! You cannot tell be looking at a Ball Python if it's a Het Albino or not because there is no visual markers, they all look normal! You would have to breed her to an Albino or a 100% Het Albino to see if you get any Albinos. Same with Yellow Belly, you would have to breed her to an another Yellow Belly to see if you get an Ivory! That is the only way you know for sure! It is a big gamble because it will take 3+ years to do that and you may only wind up with normals! Good luck! She is an amazing and unique looking Ball Python!