Black Belly Ball Python?

I'm seeking more info about the Black Belly Ball Python. So far all I've seen is 2 pics of one snake, and only the belly. However the pics were good and promising. I have a female ball python that I have been made aware has a similar belly pattern to that of a black belly, and from what I've seen I agree. Not just the belly, but the sides of the belly, and the nose had spots much like my snake. I was thinking she was a Vanilla but it was brought to my attention that Vanilla's often have clear bellies like Fires. So that's probably bunk. Regardless, there is little info on the black bellies online so far that I can find, so I figured I would try and ask again, see what pops up. Thanks in advance, ~Caylan.s.~

if youre talking about light colored spots on the end corners on the front of the nose its called booger balls :D black belly booger ball haha nice i had a black back booger ball but sorry i dont know much about them either

Yeah nose spots can be common, and found on normals, but she has other facial features that stand out that if I could see the other True black bellies face better, I would be able to compare, but so far all i can compare is the nose and they are "spot" on the same. The bellies are also the same in a sense, but it's what I would consider a common belly type(dirty) and may be difficult to difrentiate. The sides are what really got me. That and all the features being seen together on the same snake, rather then one in one snake, one in another sorta thing. Now I just want more info on the black belly morph itself, regardless if my snake turns out to be one or not, I love the Yellow Jacket combo, and if my girl turns out not to be one, I want one! So far I know they were produced by Outback Reptiles, thats about it. Not even sure who else is working with them. Very hard to put into a search engine with yellow belly and black pastel balls always popping up instead... so a new thread was in order I decided. Thanks for your input though, appreciate it. ~Caylan.s.~

Some pictures of the snake in question would help us determine if your talking about a normal or a morph ;)

This thread isn't about my snake really, it's supposed to be just for black belly ball python info, I just mentioned my girl as to why I'm interested. I already know she isn't normal, but I also know there is nothing anyone can tell me about her that I don't already know. I just need to breed and find out. Nothing a pic of mine is gonna tell me anymore about black bellies lol. But for the hell of it, I will post some up anyway. She may be a black belly after all as it is. Some sorta highlighter morph that much I can say.
Her as a baby:http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...eb1810BPF1.jpg

Yearling:http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSCF1090.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSCF1096.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSCF1093.jpg

And her now:
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSCF0029.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSCF0032.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSCF0034.jpg
New Camera Shots:
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0084.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0087.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0080.jpg

Belly shots:
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0081.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0086.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_00872.jpg

And a couple nice outdoor shots(love showing this girl off, can yuh tell?)
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0896.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0897.jpg
Thanks for looking. Still seekign more info on the BlackBelly, I know there are breeders working with them, I found that out on another forum, just nothing specific. I know my girl my not have a "blackbelly" but I also heard that isn't the only determining marker, and her belly is pretty freakin' similar to the one i saw before. Regardless I just want to see more pic's if someone has them, or more info if some has that. Thanks again! ~Caylan.s.~

I think you need to get ahold of Josh at Outback Reptiles. I think he's the one that proved the blackbelly genetic.

Thank you! I will start looking for Josh's email address. I thought it was Ian G. but I believe they may both be with Outback, hopefully I will find out! Thanks again. Any more info would be great everyone! Thanks! ~Caylan.S.~

So I spoke with Josh at Outback reptiles, the original producer of the morph. It's been passed on to other breeders to work with, no super as of yet, but it is codom/dom. My snake is likely not a black belly according to him which is good to know as well. Outback reptiles is no longer working with the black belly and we will likely see the other breeders start producing black bellies and black belly combo's soon. The pic I originally saw and thought was a black belly wasn't even one, just a CH apperently, as no black belly base morph pictures ahve been released as of yet. So everyone can stop looking, it will come when it comes I guess. I can also confirm that there is more to this morph then a black belly stripe, like Bill Buchman stated in another thread(I think we all knew that, the yellowjacket screams somehting different) so I personally can't wait to see more of it. I've always been a fan of normalish looking morphs, and I have a feeling the black belly might just take it for me! Imagine a desert blackbelly pastel enchi fire vanilla yellowbelly woma... someday lol! Thanks again, ~Caylan.S.~

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...0_0495copy.jpg

This is one I hatched last year. Father has a "black belly" and about half of his offspring came out with black bellies. Is he genetic, to soon to tell.

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Originally Posted by Inugohan

This thread isn't about my snake really, it's supposed to be just for black belly ball python info, I just mentioned my girl as to why I'm interested. I already know she isn't normal, but I also know there is nothing anyone can tell me about her that I don't already know. I just need to breed and find out. Nothing a pic of mine is gonna tell me anymore about black bellies lol. But for the hell of it, I will post some up anyway. She may be a black belly after all as it is. Some sorta highlighter morph that much I can say.
Her as a baby:http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...eb1810BPF1.jpg

Yearling:http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSCF1090.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSCF1096.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSCF1093.jpg

And her now:
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSCF0029.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSCF0032.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSCF0034.jpg
New Camera Shots:
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0084.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0087.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0080.jpg

Belly shots:
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0081.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0086.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_00872.jpg

And a couple nice outdoor shots(love showing this girl off, can yuh tell?)
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0896.jpg
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_0897.jpg
Thanks for looking. Still seekign more info on the BlackBelly, I know there are breeders working with them, I found that out on another forum, just nothing specific. I know my girl my not have a "blackbelly" but I also heard that isn't the only determining marker, and her belly is pretty freakin' similar to the one i saw before. Regardless I just want to see more pic's if someone has them, or more info if some has that. Thanks again! ~Caylan.s.~

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Man she's awesome. She reminds me of my yb because he had those dots on the nose. Great BP!

Thank you! Hoepfully we'll figure out what she is next year, if not I can easily see her breeding to a yellowbelly in the near future, I love those things! ~Caylan.s.~

She looks alot like a fire to me. The colors and even that dot on her head screams fire. Looks like my boy with the nose dots as well. Sorry this was not the intention of the thread. But I saw fire and couldn't help but put my opinion in. :P

http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/x.../malefire2.jpg
http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/x...0105110206.jpg

Yeah she definately resembles a fire colour wise, but her belly isn't clear which is a fire trait as far as I know. She's also just a little off for being a fire in my opinion, though that would be sweet. Your fire is gorgeous, love the blushing ring right across the back. Fires are just so sweet, I will be breeding this girl to one for sure. Thanks for commenting, and thansk again to everyone. ~Caylan.s.~

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Originally Posted by Inugohan

Yeah she definately resembles a fire colour wise, but her belly isn't clear which is a fire trait as far as I know. She's also just a little off for being a fire in my opinion, though that would be sweet. Your fire is gorgeous, love the blushing ring right across the back. Fires are just so sweet, I will be breeding this girl to one for sure. Thanks for commenting, and thansk again to everyone. ~Caylan.s.~

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I can't even think of what his belly looks like honestly haha. He's at a buddy's breeding right now. Thanks for the compliment! I got him from Dan Solis. He's got awesome fires. Let us know what she produces. :gj:

Ill try to get better pics in natural light tomorrow! :D
Let me know what ya think!

http://i52.tinypic.com/hupw0m.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2lld2px.jpg

:D

I wish you guys could make out the contrast on this girl! When I say she has the darkest black on a ball python Ive ever seen I mean it. The black on this girl is unreal!! Here is a pic of her next to a black pastel.

http://i54.tinypic.com/5a54s1.jpg

It's hard to find. And harder to acquire. My black belly male (my needle in a haystack). From one of only 2 people I'm aware of even has them. He's gorgeous.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ck_belly_2.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ck_belly_5.jpg

wow hes beautiful

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