Trouble finding a replacement tank

I really want to replace the hand me down tank I was given, as it is kind of old and crappy. The problem is, I cannot find a replacement ANYWHERE. It is 36" long X 12" wide X 18 inches high. I would very much like this to be the last tank I buy for my guy, so I need something appropriate for a full grown adult. Any ideas on suitable alternatives to this size that will work for a full grown ball? (only 3+ feet now, but I know he's going to keep growing). I very much prefer a glass tank. That's what I have been using, I like to be able to view my snakes, and I have all the humidity and temps worked out for it.

Have you checked craigslist? Also there are display cages on reptile basics, animal plastics, etc that are not "glass tanks" but cages that display and look really clean and nice.

That sounds like a 20L but if I remember right a 20L is only 30" long

Try this, I just bought one, 40 gallons, 36x18x16 84 bucks.
http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=4070848

We have a 20L for the other snake, and yes it's 30"

This tank is probably from the 1970s (no joke), so something tells me it's not produced anymore. That Zilla one is pretty close. Our small tank is a Zilla too.

Are the UTH's safe on non-glass tanks? I thought they had to be on glass or they would melt the cage.

95 degrees is not enough to melt plastics:gj:

If a UTH is getting hot enough to melt plastic, it's getting hot enough to burn your snake, even through glass. This is why we always advise that under tank heaters MUST be controlled by a thermostat or rheostat. As long as you're regulating the heat properly, you can use them on plastic with no problems.

^^ Agreed!

Also, if it's a male and 3+ ft, he's not going to get much bigger. Maybe a little fatter, but not much longer. A 20 gal long is perfect size for a full grown male or female. :)

I would get that UTH on a dimmer though. asap. Are you measuring the temps?

Thanks for the info. The packaging from our UTH's said NO plastic or acrylic, so I figured there must be a reason. Guess not. Our hot side is 90-92, controlled by a thermostat.

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

^^ Agreed!

Also, if it's a male and 3+ ft, he's not going to get much bigger. Maybe a little fatter, but not much longer. A 20 gal long is perfect size for a full grown male or female. :)

I would get that UTH on a dimmer though. asap. Are you measuring the temps?

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Really? 20L is big enough? It seems like he can't stretch out much anymore. I know they spend a lot of the time coiled in a hide, but he does like to roam too.

The UTH isn't on a dimmer, it's on a thermostat, set to 91 (so it fluctuates between 90 and 92). I have a digital hygrometer/thermometer that measures both sides of the cage with probes. My temps stay pretty constant, other than the several degree fluctuation.

You should have no problems then. I think they only say "No plastic or acrylic" because without a thermostat, a bunch of those UTHs can run up to 150 degrees... I'm running mine on a thermostat at around 92 degrees, been running for over two years on plastic with no problem.

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Originally Posted by OtterGoRun

Thanks for the info. The packaging from our UTH's said NO plastic or acrylic, so I figured there must be a reason. Guess not. Our hot side is 90-92, controlled by a thermostat.

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Oh. I'm sure they say that because unregulated they can do some serious damage. Especially if there is a short or malfunction. I've had all 10 of my snakes on heat pads, in tubs, with no issues.

If you think about it, any material that can melt under 92-95 degrees is not made for animals anyway. Too wimpy.

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Originally Posted by Inknsteel

You should have no problems then. I think they only say "No plastic or acrylic" because without a thermostat, a bunch of those UTHs can run up to 150 degrees... I'm running mine on a thermostat at around 92 degrees, been running for over two years on plastic with no problem.

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Darn it!! How are you so much quicker than me. Lol. I better step up my game. :)

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Originally Posted by OtterGoRun

Really? 20L is big enough? It seems like he can't stretch out much anymore. I know they spend a lot of the time coiled in a hide, but he does like to roam too.

The UTH isn't on a dimmer, it's on a thermostat, set to 91 (so it fluctuates between 90 and 92). I have a digital hygrometer/thermometer that measures both sides of the cage with probes. My temps stay pretty constant, other than the several degree fluctuation.

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Sorry, I didn't read this it just took me to the last page. :weirdface

Yeah, 20L should be plenty big if you are sure it's a male. They don't need a lot of room to stretch out in, since they spend most of their adult life in their hides. But, if you are more comfortable with a bigger tank that's fine. It's not that much different. And, they live in rodent burrows in the wild. They like small tight spaces. (There is a funny joke in there somewhere, but it's a Monday - I'm not touching it).

That's good to know that it's more of a disclaimer than a true restriction. I can open up my search to include acrylics and other plastics now.

I have seen people who don't use a thermostat/rheostat and scald the poor thing. Oy. I tried to convince said people otherwise but there was no use.

The totes won't start melting until about 350-400 degrees anyways.

We aren't positive that the one is a male and the other is a female... We need to take them and get them sexed by someone reputable so we know for sure. I really am curious if my "he" is really a "she" and vice-versa.:P

And yeah, they sure do like small spaces. Our "he" has outgrown "his" original hide from when he was younger. We bought him a bigger one, which he does spend time in, but I often come home to a giant snake trying to cram into a tiny little half log (both are in there). It's usually just a pile of snake with a half log sitting on top of him, not so much around him :rolleyes:

You should not be housing snakes together.

It is a big no no :colbert:

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Originally Posted by AkHerps

You should not be housing snakes together.

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I think he meant both hides where in there. Lol.

Well....good, haha :P