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First clutch yielded???

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  • 05-16-2011, 10:16 AM
    PassionsPythons
    First clutch yielded???
    So this first clutch is a little odd because my pairing to this normal female was a spotnose and cinnamon males. I have checked and double checked my records and I never paired a pastel male to her. So when this little pastel female popped out I was like "WTF??". I called my buddy that I bought the female from, and he told me the only male he'd ever paired to her was a POG male. I now own that very same POG male. So, if what my buddy tells me is true, then this pastel baby could only have come from retained sperm and would be 100% het orange ghost. Since it wouldn't be possible for me to sell her like that I am going to keep her and hopefully prove out her genetics.

    This is what my first clutch yielded this year:

    Spotnose male:
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...ar/spotm-1.jpg

    Spotnose female:
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...ar/spotf-4.jpg

    Pastel 100% Het Orange Ghost female:
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...ar/pastf-1.jpg

    And the Normals (which I haven't sexed yet):
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...tar/norm-1.jpg
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...tar/norm-2.jpg
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...tar/norm-3.jpg

    Here is the clutch in the eggs:
    http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j.../clutch1-3.jpg

    Here is Mom:
    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/90754/6...YM07lf6aAU.jpg

    And here are the two Dad's:
    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/90754/6...cEk1SXVu6H.jpg
    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/90754/6...ZflBaLZnlo.jpg
  • 05-16-2011, 10:27 AM
    Drewp
    Now thats something you don't see everyday... congrats on your clutch and trying to prove out the hypo genetics.
  • 05-16-2011, 11:00 AM
    python_addict
    haha i so wish that would have happened to me thats amazing youre lucky haha
  • 05-16-2011, 11:01 AM
    PghBall
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    Cool surprise! Congrats and hope she proves out for you in a few years! :gj:
  • 05-16-2011, 11:04 AM
    jsmorphs2
    How long ago was she paired with the POG? This is very interesting, congrats too!
  • 05-16-2011, 11:28 AM
    Ch^10
    Congrats on the healthy babies!
  • 05-16-2011, 12:35 PM
    JayCee
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    In the text you said the 2 dads were a spotnose and a cinnamon. Then in the pictures of the 2 dads you have a spotnose and what appears to me to be a pastel (not a cinnamon).

    I guess I'm confused a bit.
  • 05-16-2011, 01:15 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JayCee View Post
    In the text you said the 2 dads were a spotnose and a cinnamon. Then in the pictures of the 2 dads you have a spotnose and what appears to me to be a pastel (not a cinnamon).

    I guess I'm confused a bit.

    If you read a bit more in depth, it is mentioned that the Pastel occurred due to retained sperm from last years breedings.
  • 05-16-2011, 04:20 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Wow! Talk about unexpected! She's a cutie! All of them are! Congrats!:D
  • 05-16-2011, 04:22 PM
    Skittles1101
    How awesome! All are gorgeous, I especially like that last normal though, pretty colors and pattern :)
  • 05-16-2011, 04:31 PM
    python_addict
    see they never fail to amaze us haha holding back sperm from years before its awesome you never know what your gonna get :)
  • 05-16-2011, 06:22 PM
    alan1
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    the normals could also be het OG
    keep the girls!
  • 05-16-2011, 06:35 PM
    PassionsPythons
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alan1 View Post
    the normals could also be het OG
    keep the girls!

    Yeah I think I am going to hold back the female normals also and see what happens with them in the future. It would be killer to find out that more than just one egg came from that POG male.

    I finally sexed the normals also. 1.2 normals. I killed the odds with females in this clutch 2.4.
  • 05-17-2011, 11:25 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Wow that is so cool!
  • 05-18-2011, 12:53 AM
    Kymberli
    What a great surprise! :) I love those spotnose babies :gj:
  • 05-18-2011, 09:58 AM
    pedipalps
    Nice clutch and congrats!
  • 05-18-2011, 11:02 AM
    joepythons
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    Nice clutch :gj:.Thats definitly weird she would retain sperm and produced just one baby from it :confused:
  • 05-19-2011, 08:28 AM
    PassionsPythons
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Nice clutch :gj:.Thats definitly weird she would retain sperm and produced just one baby from it :confused:

    Well as far as we know only one morph came from retained sperm. The normals could be het ghost, but I won't know until I breed the females. I'm planning to keep the 2 normal females and the pastel female from this clutch and hopefully, eventually prove their genetics.
  • 05-19-2011, 08:30 AM
    PassionsPythons
    Re: First clutch yielded???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kymberli View Post
    What a great surprise! :) I love those spotnose babies :gj:

    Yeah the spotnose gene is definitely one of my favorites. I'm hoping to make power balls later this year, and hopefully some double gene mutations with them as well this fall.
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