Update on first clutch!!!

I candled our first clutch again last night (day 35) and was amazed at what we saw!!! If the embryos were positioned just right...You could see their pattern! I'll post a few updated shots below! Enjoy!

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How did you mix your vermiculite? They seem kind of deflated for only day 35.. Might not be enough humidity.

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Originally Posted by JasonG

How did you mix your vermiculite? They seem kind of deflated for only day 35.. Might not be enough humidity.

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I mixed it fairly wet...If you squeezed it in your hand a little bit of water would drip out of it. Then I used press-n-seal to cover the tub. Maybe it needs more water added?

I was wondering if they should be dimpling yet. When do you typically start seeing this?

Thanks for your comment.

Mine normally start dimpling between day 45-50.

Agreed, my first thought is this is entirely too much dimpling for Day 35. Might wanna add some water to be safe since you are using substrateless anyways.

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Originally Posted by Twisted Reptiles

Agreed, my first thought is this is entirely too much dimpling for Day 35. Might wanna add some water to be safe since you are using substrateless anyways.

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Thanks for your input. I'll add some water tonight when I get home. They must have dried out a little since I put them in the incubator.

If the vermiculite drips when you squeeze it then it is too wet. But by those pics they looks too dry. Definitely check into it.

I checked my substrate tonight and it's still very wet. I know it's not normally supposed to drip (which it barely does), but since I used substrateless incubation...I figured I would favor the more wet side to avoid the eggs drying out. I know some people that just use water as a substrate, so being too wet shouldn't be the issue?

Is it possible that they are just dimpling naturally? The shell is also becoming more pliable...From what I've read, this seems normal as well?

This is my first clutch ever, so I am very open to any tips or suggestions.

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by JasonG

If the vermiculite drips when you squeeze it then it is too wet. But by those pics they looks too dry. Definitely check into it.

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No such thing as TOO wet when using his method since eggs arent touching. The joys of using substrateless

I soak mine to the point of puddles in the vermiculite and never have to add water whole 60days.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

No such thing as TOO wet when using his method since eggs arent touching. The joys of using substrateless

I soak mine to the point of puddles in the vermiculite and never have to add water whole 60days.

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So what's your take on my eggs at this point?

Add water all over the sides just to the point of puddling on the top. And you shouldnt have to add water again. Also when you add the water, you dont want the press n seal as with substratless method it can cause condensation.

You havent had condensation yet cause it wasnt wet, which is why eggs are drying. Just add enough water and put on lid. All i do and eggs stay full till day 50 for me.

As you can See its SOAKED and on day 31 in incubator its still soaked

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What did they look like when you put them in the tub? I had a clutch that I wasn't expecting last year that stayed in the rack with mom for a few days. The eggs looked about like yours the day I put them in the incubator and still all hatched. I use the substrateless method with water so I am at 100% humidity and the eggs never did reinflate. You should be fine. Put them back in the incubator and leave them alone.

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Originally Posted by zues

What did they look like when you put them in the tub? I had a clutch that I wasn't expecting last year that stayed in the rack with mom for a few days. The eggs looked about like yours the day I put them in the incubator and still all hatched. I use the substrateless method with water so I am at 100% humidity and the eggs never did reinflate. You should be fine. Put them back in the incubator and leave them alone.

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I found these eggs within ours of being laid, but they somewhat dimpled in the first week and never reinflated. Now they are just beginning to further dimple. My tub has a ton of condensation in it, so I have no idea why they are doing this already.

How exciting for you! The candling just gets more and more fun from here on out :clap:

Get that mixture sloppy wet and enjoy the next month :D

They will fine. Although I don't normally like cutting eggs I would cut them around day 55. With mine I was just worried that the egg might be a little harder for the snake to cut through because they felt a little tougher.

I had eggs start dimpling on day 40 last year, didn't get my first pip until day 60. I would add more water just to be sure, but I suppose its possible the dimpling is just dimpling and not dehydration.

I am on day 39 and I don't have any dimpling! Just to give you an idea! Adding more water wouldn't hurt anything!

My substrate is SOAKED right now and the tub is filling with condensation. I understand that eggs will dimple when dehydrated, but I don't know how that would be possible at this point? I'll keep an eye on them and just hope they go full term. Everything seems spot on.

Here is the tub as of tonight.

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You need to ditch the press n seal and just use the lid. When using substraeless and press n seal you end up with condensation.

By using the lid only you allow small air flow in the tubs which stops the moisture build up.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

You need to ditch the press n seal and just use the lid. When using substraeless and press n seal you end up with condensation.

By using the lid only you allow small air flow in the tubs which stops the moisture build up.

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Okay, I'll go back to the normal lids, but what would be causing the dimpling? If I have condensation...I have plenty of humidity...correct? I'm just confused.

Put the normal lid on no press n seal and wait another night. They should pop back out, if not then they probably wont and they will hatch jut fine as long as humidity is high.

Press-n-seal removed and lid put back on. Fingers are crossed! Thanks for the advice!

Eggs look the same today. I'm guessing this is just how they are going to look?