First clutch hatched and ... I think I got a SPIDEY!!

So I crossed a spider with a 100% het pied and ... I may have got lucky!

So when they hatched out I saw this awesome a VERY bright Spider and I was shocked at the color. Well then after showing off all the pictures at work one of my friends asked me if the snake had a birth mark. Well looking closer surprised me with a bit of what looked like a pied spot at the end of her tail! When I went home and checked her out she has most of her tail white! As soon as she is out of shed I will have more pictures out!

Here is the group.
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSC_0216.jpg

The spiders!
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSC_0220.jpg

The female spidey alone (cant see the tail in this one but I will post more pictures later!)
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSC_0219.jpg

The spot
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...C_0216-1-1.jpg

So what do you guys think?

Mike

She is very, very gorgeous! Congrats.

I think, and I could be wrong, but I think it's a ringer which is a trait for het pieds. But that's what I'm thinking. I've never actually seen it in person though. So, take this with a grain of salt. :)

She will make some awesome pieds though. I love the lighter spiders. :)

Very cool looking girl! Congrats!

Congratulations on them! Love her, she's very light and beautiful.... And the Ringer mark is cool, my het pied girls have them. Good luck with her and all the best! :gj:

Thanks Guys!

Good point on the ringers! I wish I had a better pic to show her tail the tip is solid white! As soon as she is out of shed I will post more! These pictures were the first ones out of the egg so there will be plenty more!

Thanks

Mike

Such a cute and beautiful little spider! You got lucky here with such a pretty one!

congrats ! very beautiful clutch:D

99.9% of the time spieds have the spider head and all white body. Nice spider though:gj:

Just judging from the colors I'd say the left one is het pied and the right one is not. Very nice looking spiders!

dollars to donuts the light one w/the tail thing going on is het pied and the other is not.

Pretty little baby.

I agree with the consensus, I'd bet the little girl with the ringer is going to prove out a het, and the dark one will not.

From what I have read in various places, a LOT of het pieds carry ringers. One of my three does.

I'd have been pretty excited if I hatched that little cutie as well!

Gale

Congrats! Beautiful Spiders! It looks like a possible ringer(het Pied)!

Do either of the parents carry the pied gene?

Opps, sorry! Helps if I read! :P

Totally gorgeous Congrats :gj:

My latest purchase was a 0.1 Spider 100% Het Pied. She doesn't have a ringer.. so you never know, they both could be hets!

And I thought purchasing one was a cool feeling.. I couldn't IMAGINE what creating one would feel like! Best of luck proving her out!! Congrats and they are all beautiful little babies!!

I wouldn't put as much stock in the ringer showing that its a het more than that color. Ringers happen all over the place with every different morph. It does seem to happen a little more with Pieds but it doesn't make it certain. If you look at certain morphs that are also het for other morphs (not just pied)...most of the time the color will show differently (lighter) because of it being het for that other morph. Which is why I come to the conclusion that the lighter one is het...not because of the ringer, but because of the color.

Wow she's gorgeous! I would call her a ringer and see if you can't prove her out as a het pied! :gj:

Like others have said, keep in mind that a ringer doesn't mean het pied, it simply means they are a ringer. Her color is amazing, which would definitely make her a keeper to prove out in my book!

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Do either of the parents carry the pied gene?

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Yes the mother is a proven 100% het pied the father I am not sure about.

Sorry I haven't posted back sooner. I have been swamped with work and eggs and family ... there just are not enough hours in the day!

OK so I saw this on the pictures while I was stuck at work so ... my first reaction was OMGWTF HONK BLARG!

After I got home and thought a bit and started looking her over more and more I am a bit conflicted.
I can see the ringer and I agree but then she has more than one ring and the tip of her tail is white. (I know pictures are coming!) I have never seen a double ringer before have any of you?

And her belly is bright white but it has a few flecks on it. Almost all of the pieds I have seen had the bright white belly.

Most of the Spideys that I have seen (99%) where almost solid white with spider heads.

So as far as I know right now I got a : (in my 11 year old nephews words not mine)
"Really Freaking BRIGHT White Tipped Double Ringer Het Pied Spider Ball python of impending DOOM!"

And I am quite happy with her!:D (I will try and get pictures soon I promise!)

Thanks!

Mike

congrats beautiful babies love how light she is

Very interesting what you have in your hands. It would be awesome to prove out as het. I will be waiting for more pictures.

ha love that name. very cool animal regardless of genetics.


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Originally Posted by village idiot

99.9% of the time spieds have the spider head and all white body. Nice spider though:gj:

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He doesn't think he has a spied. He thinks he has a spider het pied... or a spider ringer.

This is why het pieds are so awesome! nothing special on their own but when you add something else in there they start to show their potential.
Anyone else found that a morph het pied looks different to just the base morph?

Beautiful spider :D

Awesome spider. Im thinking of getting a pied now haha

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99.9% of the time spieds have the spider head and all white body.

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I wonder what the real odds are of getting the all white Spied. I doubt they are 1 in 1000, since I've seen a number of different people hatch out the all whites and I doubt there have been multiple thousand Spied hatch.

My first shot at a Spied will be hatching in a few weeks. An all white Spied female is on my "never to be replaced" list. Maybe I will get lucky :)

Man those look great!! But I honesty want to see some more pics of the normals, they look almost clownish with that great reduced pattern and very neat!

I love when they have little mustaches.

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"Really Freaking BRIGHT White Tipped Double Ringer Het Pied Spider Ball python of impending DOOM!"

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: that is just too funny! give him a high five from me for coming up with that.

Gorgeous, I bet she will prove to be a het. Definite keeper :)

So these are the other two males that where in the clutch.

2 male 50% het pied's ... One is cool the other is a striker!

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_0392.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_0397.jpg

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_0393.jpg

Can you tell who the striker is? LOL!

Thanks

Mike

Honestly that is a beautiful animal, congrats :gj: